That doesn’t help much. Maybe if your friend group is around 40+ years old, and has been on the net since the 90s. But it’s not a comparable product. Matrix with element is the closest foss alternative, but even then it has clunky ux, and spaces are a subpar replacement to discord servers.
I wish that wasn’t the case but it is. The world needs a foss discord/slack option with an open protocol like matrix. If anyone knows of any projects in progress please let me know!
On the one hand, I’m pretty anti-ad and I do my best to avoid seeing them - on the other hand I’m a game developer and this specific implementation sounds pretty cool
My friends and communities are all pretty entrenched in Discord, so I’m stuck with it for better or worse
No doubt it does. especially damning if you look into the history of the founder. Discord’s data is worth too much not to be used. They even have it on the ToS that they can transcribe voice calls.
I mean most probably yeah, but they have also been progressively locking more and more functionalities behind paid tiers.
Now that they have fully penetrated and locked the market, killed any potential competitors, and become the default, I assume their "product" will be to make the free tier become less and less functional while also getting monetized in more annoying ways. If people don't like it maybe they should have known better than to make it the default.
Yeah, I’m not gonna be very happy when I have to find a new platform to host my game jams on. Discord is where like 80% of my online interactions happen these days.
Im not big into conspiracies, but it’s almost like companies are intentionally trying to deplatform regular people so they can’t reach large audiences, only corporations can.
I don’t know anybody that uses discord and pays for the subscription. They’re gonna be really sorry when they try to force the subscription stuff onto people, and it backfires.
I’ve seen it slowly being pushed on me in increasingly intrusive ways. So far I’ve been able to ignore it, but we’ll see how long that lasts.
I’ve had success with a mix of snort and pihole. Lots of ads seem to violate some RFC and snort blocks it. It’ll even break ads in the Apple TV YouTube app. You just get a black screen while ads play.
If you use an android device, like a fire stick, you can block 100% of those YouTube ads with a simple app. It doesn’t break them, they just don’t show up at all.
No. The first time I SEE an advertisement, I’m removing Discord and telling my friends to find other paths. Fuck greedy morons selling my time against my will.
I remember hosting a TS2 server back in the day on my home linux server. Unlimited slots (based on how much/little of my internet I wanted for myself) for free. The windows version was not so much (limited slots). Then TS3 came out and it was not so nice on linux
I’m a developer and see their stories about moving databases and it’s quite cumbersome at their scale. So there are real costs and covering those costs aren’t always easy. Most people don’t want to pay. Not sure what the alternative is either.
I paid and still get peppered with their promotion. So I stopped paying, then if it gets worse I will uninstall and use the web app as you can block elements with the ad blockers. (so even site hosted stuff you can single out elements to block. )
edit: yeah, unfortunately I can’t really just stop using it entirely, until my regular group server and some of the game’s server move somewhere else.
I am in 25+ Discord servers for various topics/projects, and sure speaking to friends is one of them and we could migrate away, but that’s about 5% of my Discord usage. What am I supposed to do about all the others? I don’t have a choice in what platform a given thing has chosen to use. Sure I can just refuse to use it, but then I’m just cut off from the communities I’m part of, which is a much worse outcome.
So what’s the solution? “Just delete Discord, and with it half of your social life” doesn’t sound great. I would love for everyone to migrate away, but they aren’t.
Exactly! Ads are designed to force you to engage with them. Even noticing the ad at all is engaging with it, and they've got teams of psychologists figuring out how to make that second of engagement influence you.
People who dismiss the influence of advertisements seem to forget that companies wouldn't spend a combined $615 billion globally every year on something that people can just "choose" not to engage with.
Genuine question, no snark: what do you think a company like discord should do for revenue? I agree that ads suck, and selling of personal data is gross, but are there good examples out there of orgs generating revenue in an agreeable way that doesn’t violate their customers while maintaining or surpassing their expenses?
And how has the Lemmy thing worked out? Seems Reddit didn’t even notice the people fleeing and most have gone back as the engagement here has dropped alot.
I think most of us are just tired of the fact that these companies can run at a loss, wait until they become default by starving out the rest, and then go full throttle towards making it the worst experience possible. I have no issue with leaving discord, the part that stings is porting all of my favorite bots and members over.
Its a nice wake up call that free things don’t last, or atleast are never truly free.
they already generate revenue in an agreeable way. they have two methods of paying them: Nitro and Server Boosts. they made $440 million dollars of revenue in 2020 off this. if your business can’t find a way to be sustainable off of half a billion dollars then it probably doesn’t deserve to continue existing.
Right, I guess that’s another approach, locking certain features behind a paywall. I guess that’s less egregious than the other two options provided that users can still get a wholesome experience from a free tier.
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