beebarfbadger,

Important distinction to be made here though: Would these factors impact someone important, like for example me or… me?

TokenBoomer,

Exactly.

Fosheze,

Global gas prices and shipping times are the two supply lines you don’t fuck with durring a war because that just attracts the great eye of Sauron NATO. Genocide is A-OK though. I’m pretty sure that’s written in the art of war somewhere.

dangblingus,

Semi-related: this is one of the best moments in Community for witty dialogue.

feedum_sneedson,

Look at her “I’m an American acting” face! Textbook.

JoMiran,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

Why not both? Stop the genocide in Gaza and protect the Red Sea shipments which include food, medicine and equipment many in need depend on. What’s with this either or shit. Do both.

Dkarma,

You’re one of those all lives matter people, aren’t you?

JoMiran,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

I’m one of those “don’t half ass shit” people. We (all of us) tend to have enough resources to do more but pick and choose out of convenience. Stop the genocide. Don’t attack people trying to make a living. Don’t deprive others out of resources, including the right to live without oppression.

JoMiran,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

The rest of that MLK Jr quote (part of a longer letter).

, who is more devoted to ‘order’ than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice.

sigmaklimgrindset,

Wow, the full quote is even better.

Fuck centrists.

pinkdrunkenelephants,

This is why MLK is the only non-violent activist I can stand.

At least he cared

CaptDust,

The only one? What’s the beef with Gandhi?

pinkdrunkenelephants,
stratosfear,
CaptDust,

Til, sad and unfortunate

theodewere,
theodewere avatar

Chinese trolls out here being little Chinese trolls

TokenBoomer,

Cope. So you’re saying MLK was wrong about moderates/ liberals?

theodewere,
theodewere avatar

i'm saying you wouldn't use anything he said for anything else

TokenBoomer,

? The quote fits. Liberals are more concerned with keeping the status quo, than saving lives.

hark,
@hark@lemmy.world avatar

It’s them dang foreigners I tells ya!!

theodewere, (edited )
theodewere avatar

you can be a troll just like him, it's no skin off my nose, slick.. don't feel like i'm discriminating against you just because you're a troll..

hark,
@hark@lemmy.world avatar

You’re right, your country is perfect and it’s just trolls that are the problem.

theodewere,
theodewere avatar

i don't need a perfect country to recognize a troll

hark,
@hark@lemmy.world avatar

What are your criteria to recognize a troll?

theodewere,
theodewere avatar

inane questions and bad memes

PopOfAfrica,

Oh yes, because China loves disrupted shipping routes.

Potatos_are_not_friends,

I absolutely agree with your post. The priority and urgency is off balanced.

I’d argue that the shipping issue is a much more solvable solution, which is why more folks jumped into help it. Compared to the mess that is Gaza.

ale,

Your title is very silly. Do you think the situation would be better or worse with a fascist, white supremacy in charge?

be_excellent_to_each_other,
be_excellent_to_each_other avatar
ale,

Thanks. I hadn’t read it before.

Hyperreality,
Zehzin,
@Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar

Well if it isn’t the person Dr King was talking about

rbesfe,

Shipping lanes are unironically more important than the Gaza genocide, the global shipping industry supports billions through food and fertilizer cargo.

Obviously the US needs to stop giving weapons to a genocidal regime, but acting surprised that they’re more keen on protecting freedom of navigation just shows ignorance.

Euphorazine,

I just thought at least one of the comments on your thread should be positive. I agree with your statements :)

Jaysyn,
Jaysyn avatar

Did your post land in the wrong thread?

the_post_of_tom_joad,

They are copying the things “the adults in the room” are saying because if you tell yourself you agree with the things that are happening in the world beyond your control, it feels less like you are powerless. I like to think its a coping mechanism for powerless people. At least i hope so, and that most of the people i see just bloodlessly and coldly disregarding human life arent doing so knowingly…

Maybe that’s my own cope talking

TokenBoomer, (edited )

It’s impossible to cut through the dissonance, they have to do that themselves. We can only make obvious the contradictions. Great name btw.

Edit: I got downvoted for encouraging people to think. The irony.

kick_out_the_jams,

Maybe you missed this image attached with the post.

TokenBoomer,

Here we have the moderate I was referring to.

cynar,

Unfortunately, there’s not much we can actually do.

It’s not so much people care more, it’s that rich people care more about losing money. Disrupted shipping costs the rich game points (aka $€£). They also have the ear, (and purse strings) of the elected officials.

I’ve been watching the shit the Israeli government etc (I try not to lump the Israeli people in with their psychos in charge) have been doing, for 20 years. I’ve yet to figure out what can actually be done to help the situation.

TokenBoomer,

Lacking a cohesive social movement, we can only watch it play out, and educate ourselves on what needs to be done to pick up the pieces, unfortunately.

Doorbook,

Speaking out is the best. Many people has been blinded by media showing Israel as: 1) legitimate state, 2) only democracy in the middle east, 3) great allies of the west, 4) only option for jew to live safely, 5) great tech and security, 6) only trying to portect itself.

Newer generation who can open wikipedia and read about it, see genocide unfolding in social media are able to learn the truth. So speaking out and educating people about past and current massacres is the best a powerleas person can do.

For example, massacres commited by Irgun and Haganah usually don’t show up when you look for massacres committed by Israel eventhough both dissolved into current IDF and the current ruling party.

These people didn’t attack only the Palestinians but also the British officials as well.

en.wikipedia.org/…/Killings_and_massacres_during_…

crapwittyname,

Damn good comment

cynar,

I’ve been trying. Unfortunately 20 years for no real gain gets demoralising. I’ve seen what Mossad can do first and 2nd hand. Small and peaceful groups infiltrated and disrupted. I’ve seen the footage of an aid ship being fired upon for no reason (the whole crew was on the top deck, with hands visible, as requested).

Given what I’ve seen, I fully understand what Hamas did (I don’t agree, but understand, and can’t think of a better option they should have taken).

At this point, I’m tired and jaded. If someone has a viable way to push forward a fix, I’d be up and helping, unfortunately I’m tired of spitting into the wind for no gain.

rbesfe,

Is demanding that America stop funneling weapons to Israel a moderate stance? Because that’s what I said. Is there a specific part of my comment you take issue with or are you just gonna wave your hands and act fed up?

TokenBoomer,

Shipping lanes are unironically more important than the Gaza genocide,

No, they are not. People dying is way more important than oil and consumer goods.

nonailsleft,

So which genocide(s) do you support? Israelis genociding Gazans? Saudis and Americans genociding Houthis? Iranians, Houthi’s and Gazans genociding Israelis? Which shipping lane(s) are (un)important to your genocide of choice?

TokenBoomer,

All shipping lane lives matter. /s

rbesfe,

14.5% of global food and fertilizer shipments transited the Suez in 2018. Higher shipping cost and delays on these goods means real food insecurity problems for millions of people. It’s not just oil and plastic toys being moved through there.

TokenBoomer,

Then free Palestine from Israel’s grasp, and the Houthi’s will stop. You want to stop a hypothetical genocide and allow a real one. That’s fucked up.

gmtom,

If we’re talking all shipping lanes you might have had a point, but just the suez? Nah absolutely not, ships can just divert.

shasta, (edited )

You’re suggesting they modify shipping lanes and refueling stations to go all the way around south america instead, just at the drop of a hat?

EDIT: Africa… Whatever. Same concept.

gmtom,

No? Why the fuck would they go around South America to get to the Mediterranean?

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