Grant_M,
@Grant_M@lemmy.ca avatar

I support eliminating billionaires.

Artemis,

I’m not having kids because billionaires have bribed, lobbied, and misinformed this country, and by extension the world, to the brink of ruin

TurnItOff_OnAgain,

Just because he can’t seem to have enough kids who hate him doesn’t mean everyone does.

wackypants,
wackypants avatar

To think that not so long ago, this authoritarian, grifting man-child was hailed as the real-life Tony Stark. If the mask slips any further, even his remaining fanboys are going to find it difficult to defend him.

xc2215x,

They will find some excuse.

assassin_aragorn,

I remember back in like 2018 and 2019 I pegged him as either Stark, early on, or Lex Luthor. Either way, he was an asshole, with the only concept of philanthropy being what he could gain from it.

Turns out I gave him way too much credit in both cases, he isn’t even close to their intellects.

phx,

He is kinda like that though, but more like Tony from the beginning of the first movie.

Veltoss,

I don’t think he has near as many fanboys as the musk circlejerkers on reddit always made it out to seem. I barely ever see anyone genuinely fanboy him anymore, at most many are neutral to him while still thinking he’s an idiot.

I think reddit (and social media in general) just has a habit of giving megaphones to “the other side”, no matter how small it actually is, so they can have someone to appear to argue against so it doesn’t look like they’re yelling at a wall.

Itty53,
Itty53 avatar

Not enough people point out he has bot farms at this disposal.

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2022-04-12/musk-is-off-the-twitter-board-of-directors-the-tesla-twitter-bot-army-marches-on

Old news, predates Twitter. His popularity is wildly over estimated. It's inflated. It's fake. Always was meme.

GrandMoffFartin,

I always assumed this was the case. One of the richest men in the world with an ego this fragile would definitely have his own propaganda campaign.

Interesting that by killing twitter and with Reddit dying off, he’s robbing himself of the ability to spin anything that’s said about him.

It feels like we’re minutes away from most of the content on the internet being generated by AI and most of it being consumed by bots.

DonatellaHibachi,

I love the smell of painful truth in the morning.

green_light_stop,
green_light_stop avatar

It's crazy to me that we live in a world where money and celebrity implies influence, and credentials don't mean much on a general public stage. This man can tweet something insane and its taken as a serious discussion point.

Given that money can buy influence, it is a legitimate risk to society, I get that. But how crazy is that as a concept?

Bipta,

It's as much a function of human evolution as it is of how our society functions. And hell, isn't that dependent on human evolution too?

We evolved to survive, not to run a society. We've done pretty well overall despite that problem, but the wheels are coming off.

DessertStorms,
DessertStorms avatar

Humans have evolved to be social cooperative creatures not greedy selfish hoarders, and it is only in the last few thousand years, a blip in human history, that these systems developed by, and that only reward, greed and selfishness, have been around.

Don't let these systems and the people who benefit from them (and those who have been propagandised to believe they benefit from it but really don't) fool you in to thinking any of this is natural.

dragonflyteaparty,

From what I’ve been learning about human history, your first paragraph does seem to be the case. However, we didn’t have near the same numbers then as we do now. It’s the scarily, or appearance thereof, that causes the selfishness in my opinion.

dragonflyteaparty,

From what I’ve been learning about human history, your first paragraph does seem to be the case. However, we didn’t have near the same numbers then as we do now. It’s the scarily, or appearance thereof, that causes the selfishness in my opinion.

DessertStorms, (edited )
DessertStorms avatar

It’s the scarily, or appearance thereof, that causes the selfishness in my opinion.

Assuming you mean scarcity, you've almost hit a big nail on the head there - capitalism deliberately creates artificial scarcity, and the belief that it is inevitable (and in a way, it is, when living under a system that aims for infinite growth in a finite world with finite resources), however post-scarcity is already entirely possible today, especially with the growth of automation, if only the worlds resources were managed and distributed with society's well being in mind, instead of profit.

Convincing those of us the greedy and selfish exploit, who are trapped in their system with no way out, that we are in fact the greedy and selfish ones (for wanting our basic needs met, not private jets and mega yachts) who are to blame for all of our, and humanity's, ills, not them, who are literally raking in and hoarding all of the world's resources while being the biggest contributors to its destruction, is one of capitalism's nastiest and most effective lies, because in the world they've created, where greed and selfishness are not only rewarded, but necessary, it's almost impossible to prove wrong.

But it is wrong, and completely unnatural, and a better way of life absolutely is possible, it just requires those with all the power and money to not hold all the power and money anymore, and they'd rather destroy the planet and the rest of us with it, than do that, which means it's up to us to make that choice for them, or go down with them.

dragonflyteaparty,

Yes, you’re absolutely right. 😅 I just didn’t delve all the way into it. And yes, I did mean scarcity.

dragonflyteaparty,

Yes, you’re absolutely right. 😅 I just didn’t delve all the way into it. And yes, I did mean scarcity.

dragonflyteaparty,

Yes, you’re absolutely right. 😅 I just didn’t delve all the way into it. And yes, I did mean scarcity.

dragonflyteaparty,

Yes, you’re absolutely right. 😅 I just didn’t delve all the way into it. And yes, I did mean scarcity.

dragonflyteaparty,

Yes, you’re absolutely right. 😅 I just didn’t delve all the way into it. And yes, I did mean scarcity.

DessertStorms,
DessertStorms avatar

Haha, I figured autocorrect, though you're good whatever the reason, I clearly understood what you meant.
And sorry it came out as a bit of a rant, it's hard to help it, but I'm glad it's making some sense to you!

dragonflyteaparty,

Yes, you’re absolutely right. 😅 I just didn’t delve all the way into it. And yes, I did mean scarcity.

dragonflyteaparty,

Yes, you’re absolutely right. 😅 I just didn’t delve all the way into it. And yes, I did mean scarcity.

dragonflyteaparty,

Yes, you’re absolutely right. 😅 I just didn’t delve all the way into it. And yes, I did mean scarcity.

dragonflyteaparty,

Yes, you’re absolutely right. 😅 I just didn’t delve all the way into it. And yes, I did mean scarcity.

dodgypast,

How crazy is it that people feel completely comfortable with it being true?

The reality is the complete opposite since they’ve proven themselves to be enemies of the well being of the general populace.

green_light_stop,
green_light_stop avatar

Exactly.

At the end of the day people like him are allowed to have so much influence because of regulations (or lack there of). Tax them, hold them accountable legally, something.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Republicans want us to return to America of the 1950s. Fine. Let’s have the tax rate of the 1950s and Elon pays 91%. So do Zuckerberg, Bezos, Gates, etc.

kescusay,
@kescusay@lemmy.world avatar

Ever seen the movie Glass Onion? There’s a character who is modeled partly on Musk, and it’s spot on.

green_light_stop,
green_light_stop avatar

No! Adding it to the watchlist, thanks!

kescusay,
@kescusay@lemmy.world avatar

You won’t regret it. It’s a great movie.

Of course, knowing that we have twerps like that influencing culture and politics might also leave you feeling pissed off.

ArugulaZ,
ArugulaZ avatar

It's the sequel to Knives Out; I would expect it to be a quality production.

chaogomu,

I keep meaning to watch that, but can't find the first knives out anywhere but on the high seas... I tend not to sail much these days. Not after the last nastygrahm I got in the mail.

darkknight,

Always use a vpn if torrenting in a jurisdiction that cares about piracy

DessertStorms,
DessertStorms avatar

Here you go:
Knives Out
Glass Onion

(I didn't actually like the first and didn't bother with the second but I was just watching something else on there and thought I'd check if they had those films too)

kescusay,
@kescusay@lemmy.world avatar

You don’t need to watch the first one to enjoy the second. And honestly, they’re both great fun and well worth paying a few bucks for. The movie makers clearly poured a hell of a lot of love into the craft.

HipPriest,

Every time he opens his mouth he manages to satirise himself again... He wasn't supposed to be real but some newspaper cartoonist was experimenting line Doctor Frankenstein with lightening and Bam! There were are, we're stuck with him and his sink

artisanrox,
artisanrox avatar

I support trebucheing this guy into the sun.

milkytoast,
milkytoast avatar

me too

bestdude,

This comment is more newsworthy imo

artisanrox,
artisanrox avatar

He can even do it himself when he blasts off to Mars!! JUST KEEP GOING, BUDDY

Saganastic,

The sun is in a different direction than Mars though. Both require escaping Earth orbit and and entering solar orbit. From there, to get to Mars you need to raise your orbit relative to the Earth. To get to the sun you need to lower your orbit relative to the earth.

bestdude,

yeah, it is a lot harder to go to the sun compared to mars because you have to zero your whole angular velocity for sun and slightly higher for mars

artisanrox,
artisanrox avatar

Maybe Branson or whoever can provide all the extra rocket power he needs or something.

Let's just get him there. Also he can visit Mars first and then adjust trajectory. Or maybe some nice people can help him do that since he'll be too distracted shitposting on his platform until he's crispy.

yaomtc,

He's not a politician and has shown no interest in being one, so why are people talking about this? So tired of seeing his face all over Lemmy/KBin

Rayspekt,

Just let me defederate from Elon.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

You don’t need to be one when you can buy them.

GreatBigJerk,
GreatBigJerk avatar

Because billionaires influence politics... Unfortunately.

fiat_lux,

Owning a significant component of public discourse and actively pushing ideological viewpoints using it is politics. The only difference between that and being a politician is that you can't vote him out.

When you own more than most people alive collectively, it makes sense that your actions are under extra scrutiny.

hardypart,

Owning a significant component of public discourse and actively pushing ideological viewpoints using it is politics. The only difference between that and being a politician is that you can’t vote him out.

This is more correct than I'd like to admit, fuck.

artisanrox,
artisanrox avatar

When he wants to take away my voting rights because I dont' have any kids, he's talking politics. Have you never seen a person able to buy a Congressman who doesn't like your existence???

Ragnell,
Ragnell avatar

Elon Musk shouldn't be allowed to vote.

GreatBigJerk,
GreatBigJerk avatar

That's a weird way to spell live.

wrath-sedan,
wrath-sedan avatar

I saw this news elsewhere and was about to click the link but then saw that it redirected to twitter and just bailed out there. That’s the whole point, to make insane claims to drive traffic to his failing platform. Just going to ignore it and continue to vote with 0 children thanks

allyougottadois,

Are people still listening to that idiot? Like, why though?

Midnitte,
Midnitte avatar

He's so damn creepy. First the pedo thing, then the breeding thing, now this. I'm beginning to think Musk is the pedophile.

Eldritch,

There’s a reason Elon Musk thinks like that. Apparently his father’s current wife is elon’s step sister. Apparently he groomed her from a young age to be a future wife. And this is not something unique with elon’s father. His whole breeding kink also comes from his sicko father. The reason he thinks everyone else is fucked up is because he is.

DessertStorms,
DessertStorms avatar

Not saying he isn't, because we know he's a sex offender, but I think the breeding thing is more about Great Replacement, which really boils down to racist megalomania.

Zerlyna,
@Zerlyna@lemmy.world avatar

It’s amazing he’s had sex 10 times. I don’t get what’s attractive about him in any form.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Grimes is pretty unappealing too, so maybe all of his children’s mothers are similarly unappealing.

xc2215x,

Money.

skellener,
skellener avatar

Republicans sure are obsessed with eliminating people’s voting rights. So let’s remove all Republicans from office instead by voting them out in the next election. ✊

const_void,

No idea why people are still buying cars that this guy makes.

Cynosure,

For a while, they were the only ones in stock

mainaccount,

Mostly because they’re cheap.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

You have a funny idea of cheap.

mainaccount,

Tesla doubles discounts on Model 3 cars in US inventory

reuters.com/…/tesla-doubles-discounts-model-3-car…

Facing economic headwinds, mounting competition and rising production, Tesla this year has aggressively cut vehicle prices in many countries and is resorting to the traditional automakers’ tactic of offering incentives to clear inventory, analysts said.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

From your article:

In California, a Model 3 variant in inventory was priced at $42,060,

I and my sub-$25,000 car stand by my previous statement.

mainaccount,

If you wanted Tesla, but $55k was too much, $45k is relatively cheaper. I know people that bought Teslas recently, only because of the (3rd) discount.

Here in SoCal # of Teslas skyrocketed after the discount(s). Kia Niro EV is $40-46k. People can buy a Tesla for that and they do, because they think it’s a good car (it’s not). That’s why I said they’re buying them - because of the price.

mainaccount,

If you wanted Tesla, but $55k was too much, $45k is relatively cheaper. I know people that bought Teslas recently, only because of the (3rd) discount.

Here in SoCal # of Teslas skyrocketed after the discount(s). Kia Niro EV is $40-46k. People can buy a Tesla for that and they do, because they think it’s a good car (it’s not). That’s why I said they’re buying them - because of the price.

queermunist,
@queermunist@lemmy.world avatar

It sounds like they’re buying them because they think it’s a good car.

Tyson712,

Stop. Feeding. The. Troll!

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