To think that not so long ago, this authoritarian, grifting man-child was hailed as the real-life Tony Stark. If the mask slips any further, even his remaining fanboys are going to find it difficult to defend him.
I remember back in like 2018 and 2019 I pegged him as either Stark, early on, or Lex Luthor. Either way, he was an asshole, with the only concept of philanthropy being what he could gain from it.
Turns out I gave him way too much credit in both cases, he isn’t even close to their intellects.
I don’t think he has near as many fanboys as the musk circlejerkers on reddit always made it out to seem. I barely ever see anyone genuinely fanboy him anymore, at most many are neutral to him while still thinking he’s an idiot.
I think reddit (and social media in general) just has a habit of giving megaphones to “the other side”, no matter how small it actually is, so they can have someone to appear to argue against so it doesn’t look like they’re yelling at a wall.
The sun is in a different direction than Mars though. Both require escaping Earth orbit and and entering solar orbit. From there, to get to Mars you need to raise your orbit relative to the Earth. To get to the sun you need to lower your orbit relative to the earth.
Maybe Branson or whoever can provide all the extra rocket power he needs or something.
Let's just get him there. Also he can visit Mars first and then adjust trajectory. Or maybe some nice people can help him do that since he'll be too distracted shitposting on his platform until he's crispy.
How about we stop caring what that clown has to say?
I find it especially egregious the people who (rightfully) bash him, but continue to support his products such as Twitter and Tesla. Stop supporting him. Especially on Twitter. Advertisers have fled the platform. Some users have as well. If even 1/2 the people who claim to hate the guy just stopped using Twitter, the entire platform would collapse. Instead you people prop up that site by going to it.
People whine about how shitty the API has become and how shitty tech support is and how there's no one to talk to when they run into bugs - yet they keep paying Musk $42,000 a month for that privilege.
Ah yes, “I don’t want to say gay and intersex people shouldn’t be allowed to vote, but I do want it to happen.”
Anyways I’m sterile and drive the most fuel efficient vehicle practical, don’t eat meat, and have made other sacrifices for future generations to have a habitable planet. Musky here has a private jet and at least one of his kids hates him
It's crazy to me that we live in a world where money and celebrity implies influence, and credentials don't mean much on a general public stage. This man can tweet something insane and its taken as a serious discussion point.
Given that money can buy influence, it is a legitimate risk to society, I get that. But how crazy is that as a concept?
Humans have evolved to be social cooperative creatures not greedy selfish hoarders, and it is only in the last few thousand years, a blip in human history, that these systems developed by, and that only reward, greed and selfishness, have been around.
Don't let these systems and the people who benefit from them (and those who have been propagandised to believe they benefit from it but really don't) fool you in to thinking any of this is natural.
From what I’ve been learning about human history, your first paragraph does seem to be the case. However, we didn’t have near the same numbers then as we do now. It’s the scarily, or appearance thereof, that causes the selfishness in my opinion.
From what I’ve been learning about human history, your first paragraph does seem to be the case. However, we didn’t have near the same numbers then as we do now. It’s the scarily, or appearance thereof, that causes the selfishness in my opinion.
It’s the scarily, or appearance thereof, that causes the selfishness in my opinion.
Assuming you mean scarcity, you've almost hit a big nail on the head there - capitalism deliberatelycreatesartificial scarcity, and the belief that it is inevitable (and in a way, it is, when living under a system that aims for infinite growth in a finite world with finite resources), however post-scarcity is already entirely possible today, especially with the growth of automation, if only the worlds resources were managed and distributed with society's well being in mind, instead of profit.
Convincing those of us the greedy and selfish exploit, who are trapped in their system with no way out, that we are in fact the greedy and selfish ones (for wanting our basic needs met, not private jets and mega yachts) who are to blame for all of our, and humanity's, ills, not them, who are literally raking in and hoarding all of the world's resources while being the biggest contributors to its destruction, is one of capitalism's nastiest and most effective lies, because in the world they've created, where greed and selfishness are not only rewarded, but necessary, it's almost impossible to prove wrong.
But it is wrong, and completely unnatural, and a better way of life absolutely is possible, it just requires those with all the power and money to not hold all the power and money anymore, and they'd rather destroy the planet and the rest of us with it, than do that, which means it's up to us to make that choice for them, or go down with them.
Haha, I figured autocorrect, though you're good whatever the reason, I clearly understood what you meant.
And sorry it came out as a bit of a rant, it's hard to help it, but I'm glad it's making some sense to you!
At the end of the day people like him are allowed to have so much influence because of regulations (or lack there of). Tax them, hold them accountable legally, something.
Republicans want us to return to America of the 1950s. Fine. Let’s have the tax rate of the 1950s and Elon pays 91%. So do Zuckerberg, Bezos, Gates, etc.
I keep meaning to watch that, but can't find the first knives out anywhere but on the high seas... I tend not to sail much these days. Not after the last nastygrahm I got in the mail.
(I didn't actually like the first and didn't bother with the second but I was just watching something else on there and thought I'd check if they had those films too)
You don’t need to watch the first one to enjoy the second. And honestly, they’re both great fun and well worth paying a few bucks for. The movie makers clearly poured a hell of a lot of love into the craft.
For the same reason the opinion of someone like Rupert Murdoch matters. Its not about their viewpoint directly as an individual, its the fact they control massive platforms that can and do sway public opinions.
In murdochs case he’s had an influential impact on British politics over the last 40 years and has used his media empire to act as a king maker.
Musk isn’t as savvy or as intelligent as Murdoch but that doesn’t mean is influential position should be ignored.
I don’t like Elon Musk, but can you explain what makes him a fascist? I feel like people are really throwing that term around a lot and it’s kind of concerning.
I think eliminating voting rights for citizens without children is a fascist policy. Fascism is about enforcing a “correct” or “natural” hierarchy in society. Historically this has usually been about race, but has also included other factors (for example, disabled people were the first group targeted for extermination by the Nazis). For some of us, not having kids is a choice (and imo a valid one that shouldn’t be punished by the state). But this sounds like an easy way to discriminate against same-sex couples, and all fascist systems have a history of doing that.
I personally find Ur-Fascism by Umberto Eco a good read. Fascism is really hard to pin down because it’s quite a wide category due to the different tendencies in history.
It’s a fair question, but you’re probably getting downvoted because you “feel like people are really throwing that term around a lot and it’s kind of concerning”. People are throwing the term around a lot because of all the fascism, and the fact that you find the term more concerning than the actual fascism is a bad look.
Owning a significant component of public discourse and actively pushing ideological viewpoints using it is politics. The only difference between that and being a politician is that you can't vote him out.
When you own more than most people alive collectively, it makes sense that your actions are under extra scrutiny.
Owning a significant component of public discourse and actively pushing ideological viewpoints using it is politics. The only difference between that and being a politician is that you can’t vote him out.
This is more correct than I'd like to admit, fuck.
When he wants to take away my voting rights because I dont' have any kids, he's talking politics. Have you never seen a person able to buy a Congressman who doesn't like your existence???
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