Texas Supreme Court Rules Against Pregnant Woman Seeking Emergency Abortion

The Texas Supreme Court ruled against Kate Cox, the pregnant mother who sought permission to obtain an emergency abortion, on Monday.

“These laws reflect the policy choice that the Legislature has made, and the courts must respect that choice,” the court’s seven-page ruling read. The court found that Cox’s doctor, Dr. Damla Karsan, had “asked a court to pre-authorize the abortion yet she could not, or at least did not, attest to the court that Ms. Cox’s condition poses the risks the exception requires.”

Cox, who is 20 weeks pregnant and a mother of two, had filed a lawsuit against Texas over its restrictive abortion bans. Her fetus was found to have a fatal condition known as Trisomy 18. The baby has no chance of survival, but under state law, there are only two options available to Cox: a vaginal delivery, or a C-section. Either option would risk her life or her ability to have children in the future.

Earlier on Monday, Cox’s lawyers said she was forced to flee the state to get medical care.

Pratai,

Show of hands- who’s surprised?

InvaderDJ,

This shit is getting beyond parody. I would really like to see interviews from people in Texas. Have them reply to this situation and see if they agree with AG and Supreme Court of Texas in this case. It would be illuminating I think.

paysrenttobirds,

What will be the ramifications of her fleeing the state? Can they be avoided if she never comes back? This is disgusting. They want her to suffer and risk so much for a dead baby.

520,

Since federal laws aren't being broken, she can avoid criminal consequences if she doesn't return. However anyone who assists her can be legally on the hook civilly

paysrenttobirds,

Can you be fined for underage drinking in another country when you return to the US? Is this kind of law valid that things you do in another jurisdiction where they are legal can be prosecuted at home? I’m really curious.

TechyDad,
@TechyDad@lemmy.world avatar

Typically, you can’t be prosecuted at a state level for crimes you committed out of state. Otherwise, any state with anti-gambling laws could arrest people returning from Vegas vacations.

The red states are trying to get around this with their “it’s a civil offense to help someone leave the state to get an abortion” and “it’s a crime to use public roads to have an abortion out of state,” but these laws have tenuous footing at best.

Still, I fully expect some red states to pass laws banning anyone who lives in their state from going to another state for an abortion. Republicans don’t care about what’s legal or constitutional - only about what furthers their power over people.

QuaternionsRock,

This is so obviously untrue it’s insane. How did this pass anyone’s sniff test?

A person charged in any state with treason, felony, or other crime, who shall flee from justice, and be found in another state, shall on demand of the executive authority of the state from which he fled, be delivered up, to be removed to the state having jurisdiction of the crime.

  • Article IV of the U.S. Constitution
520,

True, however states cannot criminally charge people for actions performed in other states.

So Texas cannot make it a crime to go get an abortion in California, for example. They cannot make it a crime to travel to California for that purpose either.

That's why they're trying to make these things civil offenses, which aren't covered under the constitution clause you quoted.

Nobody,

The hate machine crushes everyone in front of it. Its reasons for existence are pretenses. Its justification is non-existent. It exists to hurt and punish and control everyone. It is a tool of hateful, evil people.

hperrin,

Yet more proof that republicans don’t care about babies or children, it’s all about controlling and punishing women.

Dio,
@Dio@lemy.lol avatar

At this point, I could be considered, “Republican” By the lefties, but I don’t support banning abortion. Then again, I never said I was; I am more right leaning centre. Perhaps what you are thinking is, “Conservative”

Alto,
Alto avatar

If you're voting for Republicans, you're clearly OK with all of this, regardless of what you call yourself.

shalafi,

And if you vote Democrat, you’re clearly OK with all they do, regardless of what you call yourself.

How’s that suit you? You are why we can’t have a civil discussion in this country. You emotional little bitches stomp all political discourse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFQFB5YpDZE Video may be new to many of you, but it’s Jon Stewart at his finest. That one got the show cancelled, because it was too fucking embarrassing for both sides. And if you liked that, you’ll love this.

But you can’t see that, can you? Because you’re right and they’re wrong. They have no right to speak. I mean, it’s plain as day, objectively true, you’re right.

I’m about to work on an old shotgun. Cool experiment that I…

“School children killing scum!”

I also vote straight D.

“Baby killing vermin!”

See how that works?

And you wonder how fascists like Trump and Musk find a populist voice. You have no idea where their supporters come from. What a mystery.

Here’s the part where I “get schooled” on the paradox of intolerance. Way ahead of ya kid, wasn’t born yesterday.

And if I could be more condescending, I would be.

treefrog,

This comment was way to emotional and bitchy for me to get through it tbh.

idiomaddict,

you emotional little bitches stomp all political discourse

And if I could be more condescending, I would be

Thanks for doing your part to foster political discourse.

CADmonkey,

Why are republicans such crybabies?

shalafi,

Because they’re losing on every front? I used to eat it up, but damn, the backlash has been horrifying.

Viking_Hippie, (edited )

Holy logical fallacies, Batman!

You’ve got a bunch of strawmen, you’ve got the hasty generalization fallacy, the slothful induction fallacy, you’ve of course got plenty ad hominems, a bunch of strawman combos such as a strawman-slippery slope combo or two, a no true Scotsman strawman and a strawman bandwagon fallacy and you’ve probably got one or two I missed as well.

In conclusion: you’re an idiot, arguing in bad faith, or an idiot arguing in bad faith. I’d stake money on it being the latter.

BigMacHole,

I’d ask if you vote Republican but your Temper Tantrum over your Parties own policies already answered it!

Pratai,

LOL! It’s hilarious that you honestly think you have a point here.

Alto,
Alto avatar

Every little thing? Of course not. When it comes to something as major as basic bodily autonomy? Yeah. When we're talking about active violations of rights and the active effort to expand said violations of rights, not actively fighting against it is actively being for it. Sitting on your ass while these things happen because MUH BOTH SIDES doesn't make you noble, it makes you complicit in the blatant death march towards authoritarian we are on.

I hope to whatever higher power is out there that I'm off my ass wacko off base here, but considering the trajectory we're on, just know that the fault will primarily lie in the hands of those who simply sat on their asses doing nothing.

AnonTwo, (edited )

Calling people emotional little bitches while making a shitstorm of a whine....

I mean, yeah. I would vote democrat if the other option is republican. Because things like abortion rights, the constant voter suppression attempts, and supreme court (people who were chosen by republican representatives and proceeded to lie to the country) Would kindof be where I would draw the line.

Yeah, if that's not where you draw the line, then we don't really have something compromisable. Because a significant portion of that is violated human rights, and the other parts would make it harder to actually fix those issues in the long-term.

Sure, there doesn't have to be a good and evil. The party is currently doing evil things, and if you are sticking to your guns with that party, then what exactly are we supposed to say? I wouldn't even say Democrat is being a good party, it's just not doing things I would consider reprehensible.

And that's purely going off the domestic policy. Not even going off the fact that there's some very clear proof that the republican party has Russian government infestation corrupting it.

If you don't think nows the time to make a clear sign the party needs to reform, then I think there's a problem there.

TL;DR: We draw our lines, and unfortunately the line to draw for the republican party has crossed some pretty problematic points over the past 10 years.

shalafi,

Yes, it’s time to tell Nazis enough is enough and their shit is over. Yes, it’s time to fight back, harder than most liberals are prepared for. But when a person like OP makes a simple statement that they’re Republican, and yet OP disagrees with them, out come the pitchforks?

I also vote straight D.

You were not listening. Talk about preaching to the choir, I could have written your post myself, and I have, many, many times. Think you’re telling me something I don’t know? Something I haven’t seen or considered?

But voting straight D isn’t fucking good enough, is it? Assholes downvote every voice that doesn’t toe the party line. Comrade. (That’s an insult from the 80s. It means one that falls in lockstep with what they’re told, no thought required or permitted.)

Keep pushing down every “unliked” opinion. See what that’s bought so far? Toxic populism, fascism, powering the disaffected and powerless, who only wish to have a say, even if they’re wrong or confused. Was it worth the price to stomp their voice out and not engage in good faith? And even if they don’t listen, wasn’t it worth the effort to try reaching them?

FFS, even the most sane, moderate voices get no play. Bought and paid for, lay in the made bed, pushing allies away with hate. Always worked in the past!

Don’t come crying to me when defenseless against the Christo-fascists you’ve enabled by stomping out discourse. “How could this have happened?”

(Still waiting for the lecture on the “paradox of intolerance”. It’s a real thing and worthy of discussion.)

crazyCat,

You might have a point in here, but you’re bombastic tirade approach makes you look unhinged and people won’t parse it to find the truth beneath.

darq,
darq avatar

Do you vote for Republicans?

Brainsploosh,

When the options are between having the choice or not, voting Republican is clearly being complicit.

The other side isn’t forcing abortions, it’s giving the possibility.

Radicalized,

The democrats are right leaning centre. Good god, man, you don’t even know what a leftie is.

Viking_Hippie,

Not even leaning centre in most cases anymore…

I’d say Bernie and most of the Squad are mostly European style Social Democrats, which is center-left, but the likes of Biden, Manchin, Cuellar and Jeffries are just plain right wing and most of the leadership is much closer to them than the center.

They keep going towards the right every time the Republicans do, convinced that the tiny sliver between their rightmost and the least right wing Republicans is the majority of the population while ignoring the left completely when not demanding “unity” (read: obedience) around election time.

Radicalized,

It’s because the money that finds its way into the party only does so at the behest of the billionaires and millionaires. If they start leaning left, with more candidates that push for labor reforms like AOC, that money gets cut off. Political parties under capitalism can only operate one way.

Viking_Hippie,

Well political parties under UNREGULATED capitalism, at least.

While of course far from perfect, multiparty systems in capitalist countries that HAVEN’T made legal bribes an integral part of their political system tend to have politicians MUCH more representative of the general population than in the US. Imagine that!

RedditWanderer,

There are currently only 2 parties in the US. The party voting to remove abortion rights and the party for it. If you didn’t vote liberal you essentially voted to remove abortion rights. You can add as many adjectives to “right leaning” it doesn’t change anything

LesbianSweater,

You stated you don’t live in the US in previous comments so how do you think your opinion is relative when abortions are available in many other countries. What country are you from so I can get come context that you know wtf you are taking about when it comes to United States rulings such as roe v wade and have experienced the atrocities that our Supreme Court has brought upon us

Pratai,

When “republicans” do nothing about the behavior and corruption amongst the “conservatives” you may as well be interchangeably one and the same.

Pratai,

It’s entirely about votes. Nothing more. They need guaranteed votes and this type of shit locks them in. It’s like pre-ordering games. Census polls show who’s voting for who based on religion- and religion demands the sacrifice of innocent people’s rights. So when they pull this shit- they’re just doing to to pad their numbers.

It’s easy to manipulate dumb people. This is also why KKKonservatives want to gut the American education system.

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