Biden: House Republicans 'walking away from the threat of Russia'

“It’s just shocking. I’ve never seen anything like it,” the president said Monday.

President Joe Biden called the behavior of House Republicans “shocking” on Monday for “walking away from the threat of Russia” for not passing aid for Ukraine.

“The way they’re walking away from the threat of Russia, the way they’re walking away from NATO, the way they’re walking away from meeting our obligations. It’s just shocking. I’ve never seen anything like it,” Biden said in remarks to reporters on the White House lawn.

Biden’s frustrations with House Republicans have increased after the death of Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny, who died Friday in prison.

The president urged House Republicans to pass aid for Ukraine on Friday, saying, “It’s about time they step up, don’t you think,” instead of going on an extended recess, which he called a “two-week vacation.”

Crikeste,

Biden: Walking away from Palestinian children.

Knoxvomica,

Hey question, what are the Republicans proposing to solve that issue? I’ll wait.

Sp00kyB00k,

Somehow the whole ‘Make America Great Again’ is only helping Russia. Such patriots, much wow.

Freez245,

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Raiderkev,

Joe… Psssst … Maybe, just maybe they’re on the take for Russia

AndOfTheSevenSeas,
@AndOfTheSevenSeas@lemmy.world avatar

Are we still pretending Ukraine has any chance of “winning” it’s conflict with Russia?

ghostdoggtv,

When we met our obligations they won the logistical war in Crimea and forced Putin to resort to terror bombing civilian targets in central Ukraine. Victory for Ukraine now means the destruction of the Russian state. Russia made it existential so of course the odds are long.

AndOfTheSevenSeas,
@AndOfTheSevenSeas@lemmy.world avatar

And you honestly believe the Ukraine has any modicum of a chance at destruction of the Russian state? Are you delusional?

DarkNightoftheSoul,
@DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz avatar

Who said anything about destruction? Their stated goal is to reclaim stolen territory.

ghostdoggtv,

Well, which question do you want me to answer? I don’t think I sound delusional. I think you do.

Captainvaqina,

You anti-american pro-russian magats are the delusional ones.

AndOfTheSevenSeas,
@AndOfTheSevenSeas@lemmy.world avatar

Your presumptions are not doing you any favors, nor are they correct.

Captainvaqina,

Who ya voting for in November?

AndOfTheSevenSeas,
@AndOfTheSevenSeas@lemmy.world avatar

Neither of the sub human geriatric pieces of shit

dangblingus,

Cool so you’re voting for Trump.

AndOfTheSevenSeas,
@AndOfTheSevenSeas@lemmy.world avatar

It’s fascinating how presumptive people on lemmy are

SocialMediaSettler,

Ignore them. The usual Russian troll farm posting on Lemmy.

AndOfTheSevenSeas,
@AndOfTheSevenSeas@lemmy.world avatar

Neither of the old geriatric fucks

dangblingus,

You’re not adding anything to these threads. You’re just shouting “nuh-uh” at everyone.

DarkNightoftheSoul,
@DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz avatar

He’s right on this one, you have no basis for that claim. You can’t just call everyone who disagrees with you a magat. Well- obviously you can, but it makes you sound like a jackass.

Knoxvomica,

What in the fuck is a magat?

DarkNightoftheSoul,
@DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz avatar

maga with a t at the end, derogatory term used to describe supporters of donald The John trump

BakerBagel,

The North Vietnamese had no chance of destroying America, but the Soviets funded the VC and North Vietnamese to tie down American resources and increase internal strife at home. From a purely NATSEC perspective there is no downsides to sending old equipment from storage to Ukraine. Clears out old stock and requires production of modern equipment to replace it. The Republicans would have been all over this 12 years ago.

Flumpkin,

The only reason why republicans are against this I can imagine are:

  1. Make Biden look weak (“Oh shucks I can’t make them do anything!”) and Trump strong by comparison
  2. Because they follow their leader Trump who is somehow in bed with Putin
Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

It was fun while the mortar shells lasted but we’re completely out of shells and the remains we do have Biden wants to give to israel.

Russia has turned their economy into a war economy and produces like 5 million shells a year now. Meanwhile we can do 500.000.

Also we did a coup in Pakistan to make them sell their shells to Ukraine but now that’s also starting to fail.

A great video with top journalist Ryan Grim about the subject

Flumpkin,

I just saw a video about Pakistan and it didn’t seem to be clear the CIA is responsible for this: Why Pakistan Locked Up It’s Leader | Hasan Ali | TMR. But I’d be interested in any info to the contrary!

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Here’s a good article about it

TLDR: Imran Khan wanted to stay neutral on Russia-Ukraine. America said you must pick Ukraine and help them in war. Then America overthrew the government using the IMF and they jailed Khan for some super BS like his marriage not being religiously valid.

The Pakistani people have recently voted against the American backed government even though the government tried to massively rig the elections.

Pakistan is known as a production hub for the types of basic munitions needed for grinding warfare. As Ukraine grappled with chronic shortages of munitions and hardware, the presence of Pakistani-produced shells and other ordinances by the Ukrainian military has surfaced in open-source news reports about the conflict, though neither the U.S. nor Pakistan has acknowledged the arrangement.

The economic capital and political goodwill from the arms sales played a key role in helping secure the bailout from the IMF, with the State Department agreeing to take the IMF into confidence regarding the undisclosed weapons deal, according to sources with knowledge of the arrangement, and confirmed by a related document.

To win the loan, Pakistan had been told by the IMF it had to meet certain financing and refinancing targets related to its debt and foreign investment — targets that the country was struggling to meet. The weapons sales came to the rescue, with the funds garnered from the sale of munitions for Ukraine going a long way to cover the gap.

Securing the loan eased economic pressure, enabling the military government to delay elections — a potential reckoning in the long aftermath of Khan’s removal — and deepen the crackdown against Khan’s supporters and other dissenters. The U.S. remained largely silent about the extraordinary scale of the human rights violations that pushed the future of Pakistan’s embattled democracy into doubt.

Flumpkin,

Thanks for the link, holy shit. The TMR interview actually did mention that article but didn’t really put it in context.

What is interesting though is that they provide a bit more background to Imran Kahn as a Trump-like populous that got co-opted by the Pakistan military and his own election in 2018 was also quite questionable (previous PM was jailed). Until they had a big falling out ending in riots and mass arrests.

Overall this story reminds me a bit of Patriot… so much shady dealings and then falling flat on their faces, including now failing to properly rig the election lol. I’m not even sure if I should root for Imran Khan here. Hasan Ali describes him as willing to do pretty much anything in the pursuit of power.

But it’s scary how precarious all this is and the role of the IMF and US. They get the bailout but have to cut energy subsidies which leads to protests and political instability… I feel like more and more the wheels are coming off in all these meddling affairs around the world.

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Khan seems like the democratically elected leader. I’m not too informed and/or going to vouch for his policies, but we can’t say

“People should have a democracy and vo… No wait not voting like that! You have to 100% ally with America and can’t be neutral on a war!”

Flumpkin,

Yeah I agree with that. It just seems that either way Pakistan is a long way off a stable democracy.

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

It’s far off a stable democracy…

BECAUSE WE OVERTHREW THE DEMOCRACY!

Flumpkin,

I mean already in 2018. Of course US meddling goes a long way back.

dwalin,

Does it matter? Its their right to fight, and in our duty/interest to help

AndOfTheSevenSeas, (edited )
@AndOfTheSevenSeas@lemmy.world avatar

I disagree with both of those (duty/interest) statements, so, yes, it matters.

emptiestplace,

fuck off

cheese_greater, (edited )

I like how they obv took the time to methodically give all his naysayers one downvote. You are slain!

Edit: ayeeeeeee?! Im slain 2

emptiestplace,

careful out there!

cheese_greater,

Wait for it

SupraMario,

So they’re not allowed to defend themselves against russia? Lol the fuck are you smoking…

AndOfTheSevenSeas,
@AndOfTheSevenSeas@lemmy.world avatar

They’re absolutely allowed to, it is neither our duty nor in our interest to continue being an interventionist nation.

harmsy,

If we just let Russia steamroll through and take bites out of Europe with impunity, it’s going to be World War Three. Putin won’t stop with just Ukraine. He’ll try to take everything he thinks he can get.

AndOfTheSevenSeas,
@AndOfTheSevenSeas@lemmy.world avatar

You have fallen so far for the propaganda you actually believe that

dangblingus,

What’s your news source? Where’s your clarity coming from?

some_random_nick,

An honest question - why would he want Europe? The assumptions for why he attacked Ukraine were because of some huge natural gas reserves that were discovered and because the pipeline from Russia to Europe goes thru Ukraine and they are forced to pay transit fees or something like that. The rest of Europe is all Nato and they can legaly attack them from all sides. Wouldn’t the decision to open a new front be like the most retarded thing to do?

harmsy,

Some of the countries that he’s on the record about wanting are part of NATO and/or the EU. If he tries to take them, it doesn’t matter how much of Europe he actually wants to mess with. All of Europe will get involved.

dangblingus,

Duty to defend an avowed ally? Interest because Ukraine is the only country standing in the way of Russia and NATO Art. 5.

Disagree all you want. You’re wrong.

gregorum,

more like “warmly embracing with asscheeks spread wide”

Fapper_McFapper,

Silly Biden. Republicans aren’t walking away from the threat of Russia. Republicans are all Russian assets, they’re welcoming Putin with open arms.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, “walking away from” is a weird turn of phrase.

And he needs to come right out and say the truth. Just like I think he and all of his surrogates need to start saying right out that Trump is committed treason, that he is a rapist, and that he wants to be a dictator. Hammer those points into voters. “If you vote for Trump, you are voting for a rapist.” And bring the receipts because there

But instead they do this milquetoast shit.

Look, I would rather have virtually anyone on the left other than Biden, but it looks like we’re stuck with Biden. Now we need to convince the campaign to stop this shit and put their big boy pants on.

Fapper_McFapper,

Absolutely blows my mind how milquetoast this statement from Biden is. Like, we’re at the precipice of authoritarianism and only months away from what could very well be our last free and fair election, and this is the best the democrats can do?

“I’ve never seen anything like it.” Says Biden.

Yes, yes you have Biden, we fought wars over this same thing. It’s taught in history class.

How is it possible that we all know where this is headed and our politicians and media are still acting surprised?

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

The worst thing he can do is act like a kindly old grandpa. So that’s exactly what he does.

Meanwhile, Trump says things like “this motherfucker…”

reverendsteveii,

when you’re a democratic politician every election year either you win or your stock portfolio does. they have absolutely no skin in the game, no one is taking their rights, no one is holding rallies to deport them or have them all declared child molesters. it’s a game to them. it has been since forever, and it was never more evident than when Hillary Clinton gambled with our prosperity and lost by elevating Donald Trump thinking that she could use the threat of his presidency to motivate democratic voters without having to actually give us anything.

TunaCowboy,

anyone on the left other than Biden

Biden’s not on the left, democrats are not the left.

They’ve worked hard to maintain the oligarchic status quo furthering the corruption and rot that have led to the current populist/fascist movements.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

🙄 You know what I mean.

Dagwood222,

GOP in 2016. We need Trump because Putin isn’t afraid of Hillary

GOP in 2024. We need Putin because we are afraid of Greta.

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