Sam_Bass,

Her first

Prox,

Stop listening to this idiot. She only exists to be a distraction and/or to promote her own self-interests. She’s never saying anything constructive or of any consequence.

FenrirIII,
@FenrirIII@lemmy.world avatar

She’s a Russian mouthpiece

Sanctus,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

She’s just trying to keep the government dysfunctional. She needs to go live with her employers in Russia.

Bartsbigbugbag,

Believe it or not, this is American politics. Not everything goes back to red scare propaganda about Russia infiltrating the US.

clgoh,

You’re right. Not everything.

But this is.

Bartsbigbugbag,

a convenient cop out is what this is. You think someone as dumb as her could really keep a secret like that? You think she’s smart enough to have Opsec standards? You really believe she’s using burner phones and dead drops to communicate with Moscow? She can’t read above a fifth grade level and she’s outsmarting the three letter agencies and secret service?

newthrowaway20,

Russia tends to use useful idiots. She doesn’t need to outsmart anyone. She doesn’t even need to know she’s working for Russia. But somehow she always ends up doing things that disproportionately benefits Russia.

clgoh,

This is an amendment she presented:

No funding shall be made available to Ukraine unless restrictions on ethnic minorities’, including Hungarians in Transcarpathia, right to use their native languages in schools are lifted."

If she’s so dumb, where does it come from?

Transcarpathia? Seriously?

ivanafterall,
ivanafterall avatar

Do you think it works like 007? Burner phones!? Why would they have burner phones when there are innumerable lobbying groups, lobbyists, etc... that can just walk into their office and sit down for a meeting? Hell, Russia can just pull them aside at the National Prayer Breakfast (and that story is almost a decade old at this point). I'm sorry, but this is such a dumb take that it feels intentionally obtuse.

njm1314, (edited )

Boy I don’t know if you’ve been paying attention or not, but she ain’t exactly keeping it a secret. This ain’t a spy novel, you don’t even need to hide it. You just take the donations wherever they come.

Bartsbigbugbag,

You literally do. That’s the whole hubbub with AIPAC, is they weren’t required to register as a foreign agent, because it allows them to fund politicians, which is otherwise illegal. Taking foreign money is illegal you can be bribed by Americans all you want, but not foreigners.

Cethin,

Dude. This is America. You can be bribed legally. She doesn’t hide any of it. Maybe it’s hidden from you because you purposefully cover your eyes and make noise anytime anyone tries to make you aware of it. That doesn’t mean it’s actually a secret.

Bartsbigbugbag, (edited )

You cannot be bribed by foreign governments legally, dumb shit. But you’re accusing me of being a Russian in another comment, so I shouldn’t expect educated takes from you, should I? Are you even American? Seems weird you were posting at noon Moscow time while most Americans were sleeping, huh?

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Removed, civility.

Passerby6497,
Bartsbigbugbag,

That they got caught, and they were a lot more intelligent than MTG, so I’d expect her to do the same by now. She’s a useful idiot, not a Russian agent.

Passerby6497,
Bartsbigbugbag,

I mean, yeah a non-Russian agent could definitely do that, what Ukraine is doing is fucked up. That said, no way in hell she knows wtf that means or where Transcarpathia is, so that’s pretty damning for sure. They should tap her phone like they do to the rest of us normies and find out where she’s getting it from.

Passerby6497,

That they got caught […] so I’d expect her to do the same by now

Absence of evidence is not evidence of it’s absence.

they were a lot more intelligent than MTG

Good thing it was the politician that got picked up according to the linked article and not some underling, right? Otherwise your point may be considered ignorant of the facts. But I’m sure you actually read the article, so no worries on your front.

Cethin,

You cannot be bribed by foreign governments legally…

True, but you can be bribed. All that has to be done is for them to not register as a foreign agent, which is illegal (for them, not the receiver) but it gets discovered reasonably regularly. You can find plenty of sources for this happening, and any reasonable person knows that it’s being done by all governments everywhere.

But you’re accusing me of being a Russian in another comment…

That’s a negative on that one. I pointed out what instance you were from. I suspect you’re American. I just suspect that you hate absolutely anything America and love the Russian authoritarian oligarchy.

Are you even American? Seems weird you were posting at noon Moscow time while most Americans were sleeping, huh?

Yep. I am. I have a weird sleep schedule. Not that it matters where I’m from or where you’re from. Anyone can be reasonable from anywhere. You aren’t taking a reasonable position (aka, based on reason, not feelings), but it has nothing to do with where you’re from, which again I assume is the US or at least western Europe.

Edit: Ironically, this was the next post on my feed. A German politician taking Russian money. I don’t know German law, but I’m sure it’s illegal there as well, yet it happened.

Bartsbigbugbag,

but it gets discovered reasonably regularly

Right, and somehow MTG is better at hiding it than everyone else who’s been caught, when she can’t even keep her personal life out of the spotlight.

Cethin,

She wouldn’t be the one getting caught. It’d be some foreign agent, such as Maria Butani, who was working as an unregistered Russian agent in the NRA, an organization who donates a lot of money to Republican politicians.

Do you think MTG didn’t receive any of this money or something? In her 2020 race (her first) she did receive money from the NRA. Butani was arrested in 2018, so it’s unclear how much influence she may have had. You don’t hear any politician getting called out for NRA associations prior to 2018 though so you can assume you wouldn’t hear much for anyone receiving foreign money for influence.

InternetUser2012,

You a bot or troll? Komrade?

Mastengwe,

Your innocence is adorable.

Bartsbigbugbag,

I’ve yet to see any evidence presented of Russia bribing politicians. It wouldn’t even fit their playbook. Have you read Foundations of Geopolitics?

Passerby6497,

If your eyes are closed, of course you can’t see evidence. Maybe you should open your eyes for once in a decade?

Cethin,

No, it’s not innocence. Look at the instance they’re from. They just have to come to Russia’s defence every time.

Mastengwe,

Shit… I didn’t even notice that!

Conyak,

True, but in this case it certainly does.

Passerby6497, (edited )

Yeah, I can’t believe anyone would dare try to like the Republican party to Russia. Next thing you’ll see is people claiming that Republican politicians flew to Moscow on July 4th, but that’s just a crazy accusation that is too crazy to be believable.

Bartsbigbugbag,

I guess senate majority Leader Chuck Schumer must be a Chinese communist then, right?

Passerby6497,

A comparison this bad could only come from a brain so smooth it’s frictionless.

Either that, or you need to explain your logic, because the problem here isn’t just a visit…

surewhynotlem,

You think she understands the ethnic details of people in Ukraine and just happens to have formed an opinion that agrees with Russia?

twitter.com/JayinKyiv/status/1781069691005419854

I don’t think she can even pronounce transcarpathia.

Bartsbigbugbag,

Nope, she’s pretty dumb, I doubt she knows what those words even mean. Wonder why they’re not tapping her phone like they do to normal citizens who have committed no crimes. They might find out where she’s getting these ideas.

Bishma,
@Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

She’s caught between a rock and a hard place if the rumors of 2 R’s being ready to walk (if Johnson is ousted) are believed on capital hill. Her twitter follows won’t be satisfied unless someone motions to vacate but if they cause the majority to change their donor money is going to dry up even more than it already has.

Ravenson,

Her real problem is actually a little different. If she introduces a motion to oust, the Democrats will just vote against it this time. They ousted McCarthy because he went and betrayed them plus threw them under the bus, so they had no reason not to hope for a different speaker. Johnson kept his end of the bargain and doesn’t go out of his way to fuck them over, so they have no reason not to reward him and keep him in power. Thus, if she introduces a motion to vacate, she and a couple other crazies vote for it and the whole rest of the House votes against it, revealing her to be even more of a joke than she’s already become.

kromem,

so they have no reason not to reward him and keep him in power.

They have dozens of reasons to want him out.

The Dems would be foolish to intervene and prevent the GOP continuing to bludgeon themselves. If the right end to avoid the shit show caused by their own party, they should vote in a Dem speaker, even if a minority party representation.

Empricorn,

It does feel different this time. Even if traditional Republicans bend the knee to Trump and his extremist voters, we’re all sick of these sickening new levels of dysfunction. Notice I didn’t say they would do the right thing for the right reasons…

III,

However the will do right things for right reasons.

foggy,

If I said what I believe it is that MTG should do in order to do “the right thing” I’d be censored.

some_guy,

She should play Russian roulette with a full gun. Said it for you. Fuck Margie.

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

(Sigh) - Removed, advocating violence.

some_guy,

The definition for advocating violence seems surprisingly strict. I don’t recall the content of my removed posts, but I don’t think a reasonable person would consider any or at least most to be true calls for violence.

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar
some_guy,

I can see where you’re coming from. I’ll be more careful.

harrys_balzac,

She’d probably end up missing and hitting someone else.

some_guy,

This was a great comment. I genuinely laughed and I’m still smiling as I thank you for it.

harrys_balzac,

I appreciate your appreciation, random Internet stranger.

seejur,

Considering the size of her brain, I would be surprised if she missed

Jackcooper,

Funny that Mike Johnson is now a (very relative) good guy in this current atmosphere

Inb4 a bunch of anger

youngGoku,

Mike Johnson is a weirdo but at least he’s willing to let the gears turn with the dems.

postmateDumbass,

He is the first Republican leader since Boehner to have a gonad related name.

Its a calling card of the old money side of the party.

Syringe,

He’s a fundy traitor. Just because he finally caved on this issue after ENORMOUS political pressure, doesn’t mean he deserves any credit. He should be jailed for all the lives lost in Ukraine while he dicked around and held this up.

disguy_ovahea,

He just did his job as SotH. Don’t read too much into it. He’s chosen the Bible over the life of citizens before, and he’ll happily do it again.

Spitzspot,
@Spitzspot@lemmings.world avatar

He should step down, immediately leave Congress and take one other GOP with him.

JeeBaiChow,

Uh… mtg is a woman. Sort of. Nvm.

ThePowerOfGeek,

Is she just trying to churn through speakers until she’s made the speaker?

Either way, I wish she’d fuck off for good. Her inane, toxic ranting is incredibly annoying.

Empricorn,

She’s introduced past legislation with basically word-for-word Russian talking points. She’s straight up corrupt and wants government dysfunction and inaction.

fluxion,

MTG needs to do the right thing and go live in Russia where she belongs

NegativeLookBehind,
@NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world avatar

Put her on a rocket and shoot it into space

Naja_Kaouthia,
@Naja_Kaouthia@lemmy.world avatar

Just tell her she’s there to install the border lasers.

NegativeLookBehind,
@NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world avatar

She can go out there and destroy the Jewish space lasers

Kowowow, (edited )

Oh man if mtg was jessie who would be james in that version of stupid team rocket?

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

Magic The Gathering needs to take her own advice.

Tolookah,

Too high upkeep, just discard it

Wytch,

Backseat driver

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