There. Is. Not. A. Single. Browser. That. Values. Your. Privacy.
Then get off the internet, I guess? I mean, are you expecting one to come along at some point? Are you going to pay for it?
Mozilla is a non profit, which puts them leagues ahead of all competition in terms of trustworthiness. They have minor telemetry and sponsored things that can all be disabled, and that’s entirely because they need to make some money somehow. No one donates, so what do you expect them to do?
They respect your privacy by giving you the option to disable everything. That is far more respect than you will ever get from any of the chromium browsers.
All of these are about sponsored content. AFAIK in the current model of sponsored content have to inlude some tracking as they need to keep track of how many click goea through, acvording to that they will charge their client.
I kind of wish there would be non-tracking based ads, like burned in mid-roll ads on youtube: Just give a shout out and collect money. But it is pertty hard to convince others to switch to that model without solid data.
Finally, everything they mentioned are sponsored content and pocket, both can be turned off with one click. I call that a win in the distopian modern internet. And obviously there are more privacy oriented fork that strips these tracking content by default.
Is it just me or is this video stupid af? You can easily disable all of the telemetry in Firefox. Like yea, no shit if you keep recommendations on, it’ll collect data for that. How else would it recomend shit to you? Am i missing something here?
Enrage to Engage with a side order of Cunningham's Law. Whether or not the content has merit, you'll hook a bunch of folks eager to argue about it in the comments and get a hit of that sweet sweet engagement.
In the settings you can disable telemetry. It’s very self explanatory. Also I think firefox may call home to check if you have telemetry enabled (y/n). But that isn’t a big deal. Can you be more specific on what actual data you see Firefox still sending home and exactly what the problem is? Saying that firefox still phones home isn’t helpful or a big deal in itself, without providing the actual data sent that you disagree with.
https://pi-hole.net/ whatever site you want from everything on your network.
ublock origin can be set to do so as well for browser that isn't a chromium reskin.
But be aware blocking traffic to a site doesn't care about "but the update I wanted" and such.
You would have to use wireshark or some other software to look at the actual data being sent. I’m not 100% sure. Likely the first one is just checking to see if you have telemetry enabled or something. Like I said, you can’t just assume all of your data is being sent because it’s phoning Firefox domains. You need to pick apart the traffic. It could literally just be sending (user has telemetry disabled) and that’s it. You don’t know. Firefox is open source. If it was sending massive amounts of user info despite telemetry heing turned off then it would be fucking obvious and you’d hear about it everywhere. You could try posting in a firefox community and asking if anyone knows. I’d be interested too
None of these seem suspicious or privacy-invasive. Like I said, the browser is doing a bunch of shit in the background. You have to actually look at the traffic being sent.
Believe me, i’m the same way. If I see an app sending out domain requests, I get automatically sketched out. But if you take a step back, and really try to research what these domains are for, you’ll see that most (not all of them) are just normal data that you need for the software to function.
Also, Mozilla is non-profit. They run on fumes because of it. As long as everything is disable-able, and it is, I’m happy to let them make some money so they can keep going. We need Firefox.
It’s infuriating that this video calls out Mozilla’s declaration that they respect user privacy, as if this contradicts that.
Respect is giving users options to do whatever they like and respecting their choices. Firefox does all of that. It respects you as the user and trusts you to control your own privacy by providing you the tools to do so.
Modern day software design emphasizes removing user choices so they’re easier to corral. Firefox will straight up let you break it if you want. It lets spinoffs like Fennec exist. That is user respect.
Yea. We really do need them. Like no browser is gonna make you 100% (or close to 100%) anonymous unless you use TOR (correctly). Even then idk. TOR is above my knowledge-base so I stick with firefox. It’s really the best you’re gonna get for reasonable privacy control. Of course I hardened it a bit and added a few extensions.
I knew that before but there's something you can do about it. At least I hope it helps.
In about:config find and set the following options: extensions.pocket.enabled = false toolkit.coverage.endpoint.base = "" (empty string) toolkit.coverage.opt-out = true toolkit.telemetry.coverage.opt-out = true browser.region.update.enabled = false browser.region.network.url = "" (empty string)
Block the following domains in Pi-hole, AGH, NextDNS or of you don't use any of that then in you hosts file:
spocs.getpocket.com
location.services.mozilla.com
contile.services.mozilla.com
getpocket.cdn.mozilla.net
Can't actually load video on invidious , comments seem to talk about (telemetry|sponsors)
For this very reason i always turn airplane mode on when (install|updat)ing firefox
To peops justifying Mozilla doing this : did all you remember when they shoved mr robot ad and ad advertising their VPN in the browser for no reason ? There's ways to disable them that's true , but they're gonna continue doing this . Don't like when peops who aren't tech oriented are left vulnerable to this
Orion, based on WebKit, for iOS and macOS looks interesting. Supports chrome and Firefox add ons. I would like it to get a little more refined, still early days. Looks very promising
Both sides are absolutely not the same, here. Drawing a false comparison between Firefox and Chromium because Firefox has some suggested content is an hysterically ridiculous take.
I’ve been relatively pleased with the duckduckgo mobile browser. There are a reasonable amount of chromium forks that aim for privacy oriented browsing as well, although I don’t have a specific one to endorse.
I guess in defense of Mozilla: it isn’t really playing a different game in the browser space, they’re just trying to mitigate some of the toxicity of ad revenue as a foundation. They’re still a non profit hiring from the same pool as the tech industry money printing machine.
There’s still a limited pool of support they have to pull from, and I like it better with them around so the big 3 don’t have a total monopoly on browser architecture.
That said it’s maybe the best example the model is flawed at the jump.
the DuckDuckGo mobile browser is brilliant, wish it had add-ons like Firefox though. the mobile Firefox browser right now seems to keep becoming more unstable over time :/
It’ll get more support with some time. For now it’s a nice browser to keep separate for not polluting what you doing mind putting out in public. I’ve had a lot more smooth experiences with PWAs I load through the ddg browser.
Actually one area I think it’s got an immediate edge on firefox while the wild wild fediverse sorts out is just how many fewer attack vectors it’s presenting with the pared back features.
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