I don’t know why anyone is using youtube directly when they can use Newpipe or Freetube. No ads, sponsorblock and even the ability to automatically skip intros, recaps etc On top of that no google account tracking or algorithms.
Edit: Adding “libretube” as well based on some of the replies to this comment.
This is it for me. Easier to get YouTube family thing and now my family doesn’t have ads and doesn’t have to root a phone to install the other apps. If it was just me, sure. I have another 4 people in my life that are hard work when it comes to tech and I have other things to do with my time.
Because the average person doesn’t have a clue and they never think about this kind of thing. I’ve been called a conspiracy theorist by my own father as well as othesr for mentioning Snowden revalatins and using a VPN and all the privacy steps I take on the web.
After all Snowdon went through, it pisses me off when people say you’re a conspiracy theorist just by citing the reporting that came from the whistle he blew
Propaganda worked on those people. I remember the news back then, it all focused on Snowden himself, rather than the revelations. Lots and lots of FUD in the opinion shows, all the talking heads were spending the bulk of their time opining on him, instead
Like the fact he left the us to escape prosecution, his landing in Russia. Remember they even tracked down his girlfriend or something ridiculous? I know I’m forgetting some of it. Anyway all that crap was designed to shift people’s focus away from looking into his proof, and towards doubting the intentions of the person providing it. And boy, did it.
It worked, on a lot of people.
I still hear folks call him a traitor to this day, and they always parrot the FUD talking points i remember from back then to a T.
Forgive me if you already know this but VPNs are just someone else’s computer. It’s good for preventing your ISP from snooping but you give that visibility to whoever operates the VPN so you’re definitely trusting them not to be malicious.
Its someone else’s computer, but where your traffic is mixed with a ton of other people’s traffic coming out of that computer. Essentially you’re mixing your traffic with others. And youre often coming out of another countey with better privacy laws thsn your country. That has value in a number of ways.
Wao, this push against VPNs is getting ridiculous. We’re all well aware that most VPNs are not private. But using a VPN has it’s advantages. Geoblocked media, ISP snooping, and many other things you can circumvent. Not all VPNs are private, and even those we believe to be private, most users have to subscribe over trust alone, as we have no way of knowing if they really are or if what they describe as how they operate is true or not. But using a VPN sure beats just leaving your browsing visible to your ISP and local government.
This is where I differ. I think the algos and video recommendations are manipulative. I simply watch whatever is new from my subscribed channels and occasionally something from the related video section. Even if cared about recommendations there is no way I would value it more than the other benefits.
All that being said check out Libretube. I think it has the recommendations on the homepage.
Perhaps, but there are often related videos which provide a similar sort of discovery. One of the main points of these frontends is that they don’t track what you watch. If they don’t do that, they can’t recommend videos.
and for suggestions? i want an homepage that welcomes me when i open the app, that says you could watch this or that, continue watching this or maybe u would like this other one
After hearing about Freetube, I finally set it up and was all on board, got it configured and then was deflated to see it apparently has no queue function? I use that feature on YouTube so much that I just had to stop using it pretty much immediately.
If I somehow overlooked that or it comes in a later development stage, I’d happily move to it exclusively.
There is a bit missing with auto discovery on these frontends, which makes sense…if it doesn’t track what you watch, it can’t recommend things. Most have related videos though, so you’re not just stuck with your subscriptions.
Oh, I think I misunderstood what you meant by queue function. I get it now, the ability to pick a bunch of videos and have them play through, not a recommendations queue.
Honestly, I would trust damn near any rogue AI more than the humans any of these companies will hire any more. The more it wants to kill us as opposed to torturing us or milking us for money, the better, although I woudd prefer it not also hate nature … but that’s optional next to what we have now.
You know that ?si= at the end of the YouTube URL that is copied when you share a video from within the YouTube app?
That’s an individual tracking ID specific to you. So if you’ve ever shared a YouTube video on lemmy, reddit, Facebook, tiktok, or anywhere else without removing that code one time, anyone at Google with access to the ID system can now link you to that account with your real name, IP address and time accessed, device name, etc.
As a google user, what… what am I doing wrong right?
Using a browser instead of the YouTube app?
Unless you’re talking about Google links then yes. Amazon too, along with many other services. There’s a ClearURLs Firefox add-on to remove them automatically.
But it’s insidious with YouTube because people are much more likely to share YouTube videos on a public forum, and they just randomly started doing it one day.
You're using Google, that's about as wrong as it gets in the privacy space.
But OK, let's say your threat model allows for use of Google in specific circumstances. You should set up your account in an isolated browser container in hardened Firefox, and only use it for YouTube. No other browsing in that container. Use a VPN maybe?
Then idk sip some more koolaid and pat yourself on the back.
User asked why they never see &si= on their links on Android. @Synnr said they may be copying the link from the browser, which suggests they don’t even have the YouTube app installed, as it ‘never happens to them.’
I have used NewPipe, UntrackMe and URL Checker for years at this point, and have maintained URL sanitisation practice for probably over a decade. Enjoy the powerlessness, feds. I do not even open YouTube website to watch videos.
Related: Google just knows who YouTube users are, and can unmask them at will. They definitely won’t fix anything to make people safer from that on their platform.
As soon as Google bought YouTube they knew who the users were and everything they did online. This was never not true. Their business is to log all the activity of all internet users, not to make them safe or happy, there is nothing broken in their platform as far as they are concerned.
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