futurebird, (edited )
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To create utopias you must first imagine them.

(Drawing by penpanoply on tumblr: https://www.tumblr.com/futurebird/737784598080208896/image-description-the-cartoon-this-is-fine)

bonkydog,

@futurebird The magic item I want is a portable door to a study where I can read for as long as I like and then return to the rest of my life with no time having passed.

MrFrenchFries,
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@futurebird even if Tumblr were a person they’d know KC Green’s work 😏

futurebird,
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@MrFrenchFries

Is Panpanoply Green's account?

futurebird,
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I changed the link to one where I wrote a more complete image description.

Artivist,

@futurebird

Isaiah Berlin would disagree with you. Oftentimes a 'utopian impulse' is associated with the most heinous acts of atrocity and illiberal regimes. It's better then to have a fundamentality holding to the engagement of a diverse and pluralistic society that is holding to the stabilization of a democratic society. Arguably Thomas Paine would agree with this as well as other thinker both contemporary and prior to both the writing of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.

futurebird,
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@Artivist "It's better then to have a fundamentality holding to the engagement of a diverse and pluralistic society that is holding to the stabilization of a democratic society."

I can't quite tell what you mean by this.

My utopia has libraries, healthcare and high quality education is free. Oh and a lot more ants.

Artivist,

@futurebird

The way I see it, is that we can continue to play into the hands of the far-right regarding this issue, or for the sake of actual libraries and quality education made accessible for all American citizens we can work on counterarguments to the far-right. But touting utopia is just going to give the far-right the ammo that they want to shoot any actual reform down.

futurebird,
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@Artivist

The far right is keeping up with my fediverse account now??

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Oh God... I hope they don't see the ant Jesus from yesterday or I'm toast!

dale_price,
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@futurebird Ant Jesus is at least as biblical as the far right’s white Jesus, so there’s that

hybridhavoc,
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@futurebird @Artivist
Yeah that one is really going to bug them.

futurebird,
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@hybridhavoc @Artivist

If they liked ants more it wouldn't. Ant queens are exemplary mothers. Really the best mothers of all time.

Artivist,

@futurebird @hybridhavoc

I prefer a Killmister's measurable autonomy with a forensic consistency to what is stabilizing to democracy, to ants. Ants use pheromones as a form of social control. Cognition and deliberation is more in keeping with the doctrine of natural rights which is better when trying to uphold Constitutional Rights.

futurebird,
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@Artivist @hybridhavoc

Humans can never hope to coordinate as well as ants. I just think we should have more ants around to enjoy, we don't need to copy them.

You are conflating a singular vision of a utopia with a simple call to imagine the world as you think it should be: on an individual level.

No one gets their way in everything, but if we stop imagining there is no goal, no hope, no energy to move forward.

So go on and draw a conceptual map of a national US high speed rail network.

passenger,
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@Artivist @futurebird @hybridhavoc

My dude, that toot is indistinguishable from the output of a Markov chain text generator.

Artivist,

@futurebird

And that's the response I expected.

futurebird,
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@Artivist

No you didn't. Have you seen it? I'm really proud of it, though it's far from complete.

https://sauropods.win/@futurebird/111642448913758085

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mcpinson,
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@futurebird
Only problem here is the coffee is too far away to reach without disturbing the cat. Otherwise, this is heaven.

robotistry,
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@mcpinson @futurebird Correction - there are also no snacks. In my utopia, there would be a big overstuffed chair with plenty of room for me and the cat and the book, and a small table right next to the chair to hold the mug of tea and the small, infinitely refilling plate of chocolate sugar cookies.

llewelly,
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@futurebird does that dog really need a fireplace? Surely those eyes are so huge they can read in the dark.

CosmicTrigger,
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@llewelly @futurebird pretty sure that's cats, not dogs

futurebird,
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uh oh... currently overthinking the concept of a human sized dog with a pet cat...

futurebird,
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aaaand ... I want to draw that particular cat walking their even smaller pet dog...

nazokiyoubinbou,
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@futurebird It's turtles -- I mean cats and dogs -- all the way down.

futurebird,
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@nazokiyoubinbou

I encounter the horror of infinity everywhere!

nazokiyoubinbou,
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@futurebird Oh no. It seems even in that you've encountered infinity. You're infinitely encountering infinity.

futurebird,
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@nazokiyoubinbou

∞ ☹️<me ∞

catselbow,
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@futurebird
After about 20 layers you're going to have a (dog,cat) nucleus walking its (cat,dog) electron.

catselbow,
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@futurebird
This is fine.

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