rigo,
@rigo@mamot.fr avatar

I think it is time to think about some institutional support for

It only holds toots for 3 month, Which is not enough. We need a good general crawler and a long term archive.

Any foundation out there with some resources left?

nemobis,
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@rigo Let's start simple. I wish didn't delete all our threads with non-mamot users after 6 months! https://mamot.fr/@nemobis/110703144308933637

can help a bit for one's own relations (but only if the instance doesn't delete them too soon).
https://alexschroeder.ch/software/Mastodon_Archive

rigo,
@rigo@mamot.fr avatar

@nemobis I agree. I donated to @LaQuadrature my biggest donation of 2023 to have the machines and the people for mamot.fr.

I think @admin could make a concept of preservation and search engine (this is the same) and give it a price tag. I'm certain that the money will be donated.

@admin were trailblazers since 2016. As a lighthouse, they have some responsibility to show the way. At least I want to encourage them to be such a lighthouse.

nemobis,
@nemobis@mamot.fr avatar

@rigo There was never a mention of it being a financial problem though. If the draconian data purging was introduced to spare resources on the DB, I'd understand and we could help tune it. If LQDN asked for money to afford a beefier DB, I'd be happy to contribute.

As for tootfinder, do you think someone could offer to sponsor/host it without being dragged into all the surrounding drama / ?

rigo,
@rigo@mamot.fr avatar

@nemobis the fedisearch drama is almost solved as tootfinder is opt-in. We could improve that opt in. This is easy as ActivityPub is RDF and we could just annotate toots for search like they do for annotation.
And such an institution has to take some heat from the idiots. But attorneys like myself should step up to protect it.

rigo,
@rigo@mamot.fr avatar

@nemobis BTW, this is public data anyway. So this could just run on a rented scalable OVH-cluster. They could even sponsor.

For the heat, it may be a good idea to create another french Asso with limited liability, just for that service

nemobis,
@nemobis@mamot.fr avatar

@rigo Do French associations get limited liability automatically? I remember there's some relatively convoluted step for some of the legal statuses. A Finnish coop may also be an option to offer some legally risky shared services for fediverse instances. (I've been thinking of some: https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fediparty/wiki/Collectively-owned-instances .)

rigo,
@rigo@mamot.fr avatar

@nemobis a coop is another idea. In France, the gérant is not liable. And if the asso is liable, than only to the extend of its assets.
Utilité publique is only needed for extended assets AFAIK. But I agree that coops are the most underrated form of corporation. And a coop would do the trick here.

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