DJDarren,
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Just seen a well known voice on here wanging on about how QTing should be a God Given Right, and illustrating their point by screengrabbing a post they wanted to quote.

But didn’t add any alt-text to the screengrab.

And none of their followers mentioned it in the many replies.

sigh

FreakyFwoof,

@DJDarren Aaaaaaaaarg fuck off with ya quote-post bullshittery! Such an annoying trait. One of x's more terrible ideas to taint the universe. I personally don't miss it in the slightest and hate seeing it.

DJDarren,
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@FreakyFwoof Eh, I’m not so fixed on it one way or the other. I can see the value, but equally I can see that 99% of its use on Twitter is to shit on the quoted tweet - for good reasons or not.

And honestly, most of the time I saw it used over there, it only served to amplify the voices of the Worst People.

“Look at this prick! No, really, look at him! Look at the shitty things he says. No, don’t ignore him, LOOK AT HIM!”

Nah mate, you’re grand.

FreakyFwoof,

@DJDarren Here though, it de-threads things and so people could be shitposting about you and you'd never know it. Not all clients support it, so there could be entire conversations about your own posts you'd never know about. That, is a shit-show.

DJDarren,
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@FreakyFwoof Yup, I agree.

I did see someone once note that if it must exist, then it would be better to have them flipped, so quoted post at the top, added comment below. This flips the dynamic and (in theory) makes it less likely that the quoter will be doing so in order to dunk.

But yeah, I’m not really arsed about them.

DJDarren,
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Don’t really know what point I’m trying to make here because I’m tired as shit and my boss is droning on about some stuff he uses to keep his patio free from grime.

But it strikes me that you can’t complain about how hard it is to use Mastodon, while completely ignoring a well advertised feature that makes accessibility possible for a huge swathe of users.

troberts,
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@DJDarren I may have boosted that well known voice, cause I think they showed progress on the idea of QT-ing being opt in.

And coming from a major publication, their use of Mastodon is better than many in that field.

So you know, small wins.

But yes, I also encourage the use of alt-text and do it as much as I can myself.

DJDarren,
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@troberts Yeah, you and a couple of others.

It’s fine. I get the impetus and I don’t disagree. But like I just said to the ever wonderful @FreakyFwoof; 99% of QTs I saw on Twitter were used to shit on the person being quoted. I don’t want to have to ride the opt-in button like Carl Cox’ crossfader, because some shithead and his buddies have taken it upon themselves to tell the world they think I’m a cunt.

troberts,
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@DJDarren Yeah I hate dunking too. People who I generally liked did, at I think the culture on Twitter brought out the worst in them.

As people have pointed out, it's possible to QT here, and people do it in one form or another. Overall I think the culture on Mastodon (at least in my circles) is generally less toxic.

DJDarren,
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@troberts Yeah, true. Currently.

And honestly, it might not change. The biggest shitheads will have stayed on Twitter, or gone to Bluesky. But I dunno, it just feels like we make it work anyway, so why introduce a vector of attack that has proven to be so efficient, regardless of its original intention.

troberts,
@troberts@theblower.au avatar

@DJDarren Yeah fair point.

Anyway, I don't want to be arguing with you either :)

DJDarren,
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@troberts Fuck you. I’ll argue with you if I want to.

QT: Get a load of this prick.

DJDarren,
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