mcc,
@mcc@mastodon.social avatar

I understand how this happened but I cannot help but notice that is literally the opposite of what I asked for

aparrish,
@aparrish@friend.camp avatar

@mcc "it looks like you've searched for something unusual and specific. it would be better for me though if you'd searched for something common and generic, so here you go!"

gila,

I can’t help but feel this is related to the nebulousness of the intended search term. For example, would you have expected Latin to show up on the list of extant languages? Because in terms of language death, it’s extinct

mcc,
@mcc@mastodon.social avatar

@gila I also tried searching for "live languages" and google auto-substituted a search for "love languages"

gila,

Again its inference would be shaped by the search results that exist, not necessarily just the query. I’m saying there’s not a result Google searchers generally agree upon for a search term “live languages” because algorithmically it is not meaningfully separate from just “languages”. Whereas I imagine there would be for “love languages” because of the romance languages, e.g. Spanish French Italian

mcc,
@mcc@mastodon.social avatar

@gila nevertheless, I searched for real words and it showed me neither what I asked for or something similar but just some random words that are spelled similar. They could have been at least a little more useful if they'd simply done nothing

gila,

I get that, I don’t think that’s related to some failure of Google though. The problem originates with the different meaning of “extinct” in relation to language, and consequently the meaning of its opposite. I think what you’re looking for is “living languages”, and you’d need a full-on LLM search assistant to be able to make a connection between “extant” and “living” languages because generally those aren’t synonyms.

mcc,
@mcc@mastodon.social avatar

@gila or they could have searched for "extant languages" when I searched for extant languages and searched for "live languages" when I searched for live languages

gila, (edited )

If it did, then you’d still not get any relevant results, because again, those aren’t things. A list of extant languages would simply be a list of all languages throughout history that aren’t delineated as some kind of proto-language developed by early humans. Such specificity is not at all conveyed by the term “extant languages”. The search engine can’t reply, “under what circumstances are they extant? Are Klingon, C++, Heiroglyphs desired results? They’re extant!”

I would agree insofar as “live languages” should autocorrect to “living languages”, but it is getting pretty into the weeds linguistically

mcc,
@mcc@mastodon.social avatar

@gila "If it did, then you’d still not get any relevant results" and then i'd try phrasing it a different way, and i'd have gotten there quicker because the search engine didn't slow me down by wasting my time

protist,

Surely this fucking idiot just misspelled “extinct.”

BossDj,

To be honest, that’s probably what happens more often than people searching “extant”

SayJess,
@SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I’d say that was the extant of it.

GlitterInfection,

I find that almost 100% of the time that search engines try to correct me to display better results they are wrong and I’d rather have received no results than what they showed me.

Anticorp,

They’d rather show you some wrong ads than no ads at all.

thesporkeffect,

Ma! They’re enshittifyin’ my googles again!!

shasta,

Read this in the voice of Zeke from Bob’s Burgers

MrAptronym,
@MrAptronym@mastodon.social avatar

@mcc ugh, constantly happens to me. Especially when I use specific acronyms and it just includes others. Even in google scholar

mhkohne,
@mhkohne@mastodon.social avatar

@mcc Search engine attempts to correct my spelling mostly get it wrong. Not that my spelling is great or anything, just...I search for strange things.

anniethebruce,
@anniethebruce@easymode.im avatar

@mcc I don't mind a "did you mean" link, but rewriting my query drives me up the wall. Give me suggestions but default to what I actually searched for

mcc,
@mcc@mastodon.social avatar

@anniethebruce I think the substitution is maybe ok when you appear to have actually mispelled something but extant is a word! And if you search for "live languages" it corrects to "love languages"

zandra,
@zandra@mastodon.social avatar

@mcc "I would like information on COBOL"
oh you mean cable, right? of course you did, don't even answer that. anyway here's an even 50/50 split of USB cables and the X-Men character

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