tedu,

Funny thing about Therac-25. Comes up in literally every discussion about how dangerous software can be (still is), but it's been 40 years. I don't think we should forget the lessons of the past, but at some point maybe we should acknowledge the past is the past not the present.

The amount of software in life critical medical systems is magnitudes greater than in the Therac times. If nothing has improved, shouldn't we have more recent tragedies to reference?

tallship,
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@tedu

That's not freaky-deaky at all... NOT.

Couldn't even find the programmer after he left the corporation. A software maintenance nightmare.

But until just the past couple of years, there's been major concerns with login access to medical equipment - especially wrt insecure WiFi SSIDs.

I don't think that really falls under the "hindsight" proverb either, IMO, it's kinda moronic at the outset. Machines that monitor and administer delivery of medication, pacemakers, Etc.

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strypey,
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@tallship
> it's kinda moronic at the outset. Machines that monitor and administer delivery of medication, pacemakers, Etc.

... and are allowed to be sold without source code. Even if they're being implanted in people's bodies, and keeping them working can be literally life or death;

https://videos.trom.tf/w/4cbf7161-4615-4f4d-b244-574df90d567d

Some industries should be obliged to supply source code, both scientific and medical equipment are examples.

@tedu

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