SuitedUpDev,
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There is one thought that doesn't seem to disappear from my mind. And it started rearing it's head back in September when I visited Seoul for the first time, slowly faded away and when I lived in Indonesia for 2 months, it came back in full swing. To make matters more 'interestinf' over the last few days, that thought is getting louder and louder.

The thought that The Netherlands doesn't spark joy (anymore)....

chessert,
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  • SuitedUpDev,
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    @chessert it's good to hear that I'm not the only one, that's thinking of moving abroad.

    What are your reasons for thinking about moving to a different country?

    SuitedUpDev,
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    At the moment nothing concrete... It's just a thought that's lingering around.

    dogfox,
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    @SuitedUpDev

    Would you go to Indonesia or shoot straight for Seoul?

    SuitedUpDev,
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    @dogfox that question is quite multifaceted and "loaded".

    So if I were to go for Indonesia, I could pretty "easily" save up to outright buy an apartment in Jakarta. ~ 2 years, if I'd live according to my current means (which includes traveling) and I have family there. But I could "relatively" easy acquire a higher paying job because I'm a 'bule' and the cost of living is pretty low.

    However, Jakarta is one of the cities with the most pollution in the world and has no drinkable tapwater... 1/?

    SuitedUpDev,
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    Not to mention the fact, that technically Indonesia is still considered a 3rd world country. Even if you only count the previous things and the rampant political corruption.

    Which flows nicely into another point. I'm Dutch, for the average Indonesian, that really doesn't matter. But for governmental official business, that true matters (given the history between ID and NL), the amount of abuse I've gotten by immigration officers at the border for example.... YIKES. 2/?

    SuitedUpDev,
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    And for Korea, there are also a lot of ups and downs to consider.

    For example, to apply for residency in Korea. The salary income changes per year in order to be able to stay in Korea. Not to mention the fact, that education and having a degree is mandatory in Korea, if you want any type of decent paying job. And I'm a university dropout.😅

    On the flipside of that, Korea is a lovely country and has really got their shit together.

    3/?

    SuitedUpDev,
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    I was initially thinking of applying for Korea's "digital nomad visa" and try to live their for 2 years. Then I read the income requirements. That's more than 1,5x my current salary (and I don't have a bad salary).

    It's almost like the government is trying to actively prevent people from getting that visa, because for Q1 of 2024, only 7 people applied for that digital nomad visa.

    4/?

    SuitedUpDev,
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    So yeah... Those are my 2 cents into that question 😅

    5/5

    dogfox,
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    @SuitedUpDev

    This is why I asked: I was guessing Korea would be harder/nicer and Indonesia easier/shittier and wanted the details.

    7 people though? Jeez...

    SuitedUpDev,
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    @dogfox yes, only 7 people... But they want people that have a take home pay of 66K USD, which is double the average Korean salary and you need health insurance that also at the minimum covers that same amount....

    dogfox,
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    @SuitedUpDev

    Would you go for a job a Korean firm or what?

    SuitedUpDev,
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    @dogfox ehhhhh.... Only if I don't have to deal the associated work culture 😅

    dogfox,
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    @SuitedUpDev

    Oh jeez, right. 52 hr/week expected...

    SuitedUpDev,
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    @dogfox exactly... So I would want to skip that, if all possible.

    dwarf,
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    @SuitedUpDev I feel that very much, but what exactly makes you feel that way?

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