BashStKid, 1 month ago

@fkamiah17 I think Cameron’s forgotten he exists too …

fkamiah17, 1 month ago

@BashStKid Literally no one exists for David Cameron except David Cameron.
I don't think it's a bad thing to have forgotten about Grant Shapps tbh.

ChrisMayLA6, 1 month ago

@fkamiah17

No, what is really extraordinary is that he has been for seven months, which (I think I'm right in saying) is the longest period he has held onto a ministerial post.....

fkamiah17, 1 month ago

@ChrisMayLA6 Sheesh, really? That must be the longest anyone's been Defence Sec for a while too ...

chrisgerhard, 1 month ago

@fkamiah17 @ChrisMayLA6 he changes his name regularly so they don't notice

fkamiah17, 1 month ago

@chrisgerhard @ChrisMayLA6 He should be using those mad skillz at the security services 🙄

Fasgadh, 1 month ago

@fkamiah17 @ChrisMayLA6

Ben Wallace managed to dodge the usual musical chairs game played by the idiocracy. It's a long run in one place for Mr Green though

fkamiah17, 1 month ago

@Fasgadh @ChrisMayLA6 I'd forgotten about him too 😂

Fasgadh, 1 month ago

@fkamiah17 @ChrisMayLA6

He was clever, at least by their standards and kept his head down, probably actually doing some work.

fkamiah17, 1 month ago

@Fasgadh @ChrisMayLA6 Did he do any work though? All I remember (although the memory gets overwritten quite quickly these days), is sulking because he didn't get through the selection process for leader, then resigning in a huff because the Treasury wouldn't give him any money to waste ...

Fasgadh, 1 month ago

@fkamiah17 @ChrisMayLA6
Some does not imply a lot. it is just ≠ 0. He was good at hiding though.

fkamiah17, 1 month ago

@Fasgadh @ChrisMayLA6 Fair point.
I think being good at hiding is the key to ministerial longevity.

ChrisMayLA6, 1 month ago

@fkamiah17 @Fasgadh

and while we're talking about Ben Wallace... here's his voting record, which is a mixed bag (to be generous)....

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/11668/ben_wallace/wyre_and_preston_north/votes

fkamiah17, 1 month ago

@ChrisMayLA6 @Fasgadh Wow, there's some pretty bleak stuff in there - mass surveillance, weak regulation on imports. Standard Tory I guess, though.

ChrisMayLA6, 1 month ago

@fkamiah17 @Fasgadh

Yup, each time he's nominated/mentioned as a 'sensible' Tory (he's local and well-known round here), I send people a link to this to disabuse them....

fkamiah17, 1 month ago

@ChrisMayLA6 @Fasgadh Yeah, he fell into the same category as Tugendhat for me a while ago but how dumb to think a sensible human could remain within the party as it exists now.

HeatherMJ, 1 month ago

@fkamiah17
Who?

fkamiah17, 1 month ago

@HeatherMJ Corinne Stockheath ... y'know ... Michael Green.