GhostOnTheHalfShell, (edited )
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#climatechange #mars #permaculture #STEM

Let me disabuse you of the idea that a Martian colony is the way to save mankind.

Survival on Mars is 1000x more difficult with no free flowing water, no atmosphere, no ozone, no magnetosphere, much less solar radiation to power anything including biological life.

Choosing Mars is picking the absolute worst probability to beat gambler's ruin.

Even a 3' warmer Earth is better.

The first IQ test is to stop pursuing stupid ideas as a magic bullet.

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GhostOnTheHalfShell,
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If the USS Enterprise found our solar system as an alternate system, with the 3rd planet from the sun 7C warmer, with life on it and everything else the same on all the other planets, what fucking planet would they pick for a colony?

But nope, Mr Modernity will absofuckingly decide Mars, even though any tribe on Earth would absolutely pick the Earth -- because they understand survival and modern humanity only understand big dick technology.

GhostOnTheHalfShell,
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Even on a 3 warmer planet, you could like sensible early mammals, become nocturnal, and you'd still have air to breath, and ozone during daytime (making terrestrial life viable), a magnetosphere to keep radiation off of us and bits of life that can turn CO2 and sunlight into carbohydrates, fats and proteins, for no effort.

StephanMatthiesen,
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@GhostOnTheHalfShell oh we do need the Mars colony for human survival. Not for actually moving there, but for sending all the techbros and billionaires there so that we can actually start fixing the problems on Earth without them messing it up.

GhostOnTheHalfShell,
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@StephanMatthiesen

I accept this answer! :100a:

claralistensprechen3rd,

@GhostOnTheHalfShell Well, then, let me disabuse you of the notion that when Earth reaches 3 degrees warmer, it's not going to get hotter than that later. When humans cannot live on either Earth or Mars, humans will go extinct.

GhostOnTheHalfShell,
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@claralistensprechen3rd

True. But 7C warmer would be easier than Mars today. It's a fantasy to think the fix for human calamity is to run out of frying pan and into an airless, waterless, ozoneless, irradiated desert is
Brilliant™️

claralistensprechen3rd,

@GhostOnTheHalfShell So our choices are:

  1. extinction easy
  2. extinction hard.

Extinction = extinction.

GhostOnTheHalfShell,
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@claralistensprechen3rd

Fortunately the deepest stupid, modernity and the hydrocarbon economy, unravels quickly when its mild stable environment disappears.

The process is going to kill lots of people, but it also stops dead the global economy. The unknowns are the options left as climate continues to evolve away stable+mild state.

Small scale societies, like humanity had for hundreds of thousands of years, can still manage, even city states if they can adapt to a mercurial landscape.

GhostOnTheHalfShell, (edited )
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Even a 3C warmer Earth has: water
atmosphere
ozone layer
magnetosphere
biology that sequesters co2 (all photosynthesis)
minerals
a large library of life that might survive in refugia

Even a Star Trek civilization would choose a 3' warmer Earth over fucking Mars.

but nooo TECH BROS gonna TECH and magic

give me a break. :srofl:

Life spent 3.5 billion years figuring out survival at 17C warmer and much colder climate than now.

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GhostOnTheHalfShell,
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It figured out extreme weather, now to capture raging floods, baffle them, capture their silt and water.

We just have to stop being idiots and ignoring what's right in front of us. It's an IQ test.

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