@danielsiepmann@Anachron@Natanox In our company we are all in our mid forties and when customers come around asking for all that js stuff we just say that we are to old for this… and that the user experience mostly doesn‘t gain anything from it and that the accessibilty standards are easier to meet if you stick to web standards… and working mostly in tourism and communal contexts the last thing is quite important, compared to being old.