@angry_drunk@flargh@caspercdn@jackbrewster I think you hit it on the nail with the irrelevance bit. Gruber et al no longer “matter” like they used to, they’re no longer feted, they no longer have MWE et al to be worshipped at.
Even the WWDC is reduced to videos only and slack just isn’t the same as people crowding 3 deep for a moment of your time.
No fun being the boy king of a dead, abandoned kingdom.