pluralistic,
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Ther's lots of ways to slice the coalition, but one important axis are the self-styled adults-in-the-room, who declare themselves realists, and the party's left wing, who are dismissed as idealists who don't understand politics: neither how to win elections nor how to wield power.

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chickamora,

In case people are new here: you can unroll a whole thread if you open it and then hit the litttle eye icon at the top. Instead of hitting "show more" on every individual post. @pluralistic

stevenroose,

@chickamora @pluralistic Did you just assume my client? 😱

RoguishDavid,

@pluralistic
"I want to do it, now go away."

Yes, I remember that. Obama the campaigning firebrand turned into Obama the absent-father bureaucrat once elected, and then he seemed clueless as to what was going to happen in the midterms. Gah, politics in this country is frustrating.

blogdiva,
@blogdiva@mastodon.social avatar

MACHIAVELLIANS

@pluralistic

call obstructionist Democrats what they are: machiavellians.

when researching the psychosociology of fascism i stumbled upon the concept of the Dark Tetrad. was surprised machiavellism is one of the "personality traits understood to be dispositions toward amoral and antisocial behavior"

really super important for understanding how "oppositions" end up enabling fascists & defending the fascist status quo

https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2015-56733-006

janxdevil,
@janxdevil@sfba.social avatar

@pluralistic I have been saying “STOP!” to every Democrat who contacts me looking for donations, volunteers, enthusiasm, whatever for pretty much the last three years, and they haven’t stopped. It’s been a consistent drumbeat of “I want to do it, but damn you don’t you dare try to make me do it,” for all that time. Nothing has changed. I believe nothing will change. I think Deliverism has not just died. It’s been forgotten too.

futurebird,
@futurebird@sauropods.win avatar

@pluralistic

Think you you are missing the word "know"

pluralistic,
@pluralistic@mamot.fr avatar

The "realists" are the ones telling us that we can't have nice things. They say that if the Dems promise bold action - protecting abortion, controlling assault weapons, funding infrastructure, raising the minimum wage, providing health care - they will lose elections. When Dems do win elections, they insist that none of these things are possible: the will strike them down, or the GOP will them, or the business lobby will subvert them.

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pluralistic,
@pluralistic@mamot.fr avatar

For these realists, every negotiation is a grand bargain in which all the grownups meet in smoke-filled rooms where they niggle and cajole and flatter their way into tiny, incremental policy changes, "signature achievements" that are so modest that the enemy can't possibly weaponize them as the deeds of radical socialists who will bring the country to ruin.

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pluralistic,
@pluralistic@mamot.fr avatar

To do otherwise, the realists say, is to court catastrophe. Wielding power will destroy the "comity" that makes the legislature effective. It will "delegitimize" the institutions whose trustworthiness is key to enacting sound policy. When they go low, we must go high - not out of a sense of decorum, but to preserve the republic itself.

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pluralistic,
@pluralistic@mamot.fr avatar

This kind of politics - the politics beloved of the - took over the Democratic Party in the years (see also: UK under ). But its foremost practitioner - the Triangulation - was .

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pluralistic,
@pluralistic@mamot.fr avatar

's inside/outside game was indeed remarkable. He assembled and steered a massive, grassroots get-out-the-vote campaign that leveraged his skills as a once-in-a-generation orator to inspire huge numbers of historical nonvoters to show up and cast their ballot (recall that nearly every US election is won by "none of the above," so is a winning strategy, if you can pull it off).

Then, after the election, he switched off that grassroots.

Literally.

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pluralistic,
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At the time, Obama's grassroots was the most successful in history. Talented coders and digital strategists figured out how to leverage the internet to identify, mobilize and coordinate volunteers across the country. And while netroots activists did their work across the whole internet, their home base was a server the Obama campaign controlled. Once Obama won, they switched that server off.

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pluralistic,
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You see, the rabble is useful when you're out there, trying to turn voters out to the polls. But if you plan to spend your term in office playing eleven dimensional chess, you don't want the mob jostling your elbow and shouting in your ear.

If 's (possibly apocryphal) motto was "I want to do it, now make me do it"; Obama's was "I want to do it, now go away."

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pluralistic,
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Rather than surrounding himself with the great unwashed, Obama created a cabinet of technocrats, grownups from the upper ranks of industry and the consultant class.

Think of , Obama's Treasury Secretary, who counseled that the banks should be bailed out with no strings attached, not even a requirement that they halt the seizure and liquidation of swathes of Americans' family homes.

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pluralistic,
@pluralistic@mamot.fr avatar

When Geithner told Obama he had to "" for the crashing banks with the roofs over everyday Americans' heads, there were no grassroots organizers foaming at the mouth in outrage. Thus did Obama end the - by creating the Great :

https://pluralistic.net/2023/03/06/personnel-are-policy/#janice-eberly

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pluralistic,
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But Obama's signature achievement wasn't his economic policy - it was his #healthcare policy. The #AffordableCareAct was a carefully triangulated compromise, one that guaranteed a massive flow of public cash to America's wildly profitable health insurance monopoly and steered clear of any socialist whiff that Americans would get their care from the government.

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pluralistic, (edited )
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The was an technocrat's iron-clad dream policy. It would work! After all, it "aligned the incentives" of healthcare investors and "harnessed markets" to drive efficiency. No one could accuse this policy - which was copypasted from former Massachusetts governor 's - of being "socialist." It was invented by a consultant!

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pluralistic,
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Sure, the left would carp about and whine about the unjust enrichment of insurance barons. And sure, the right would try to convince "low information voter" lumpenproles that the was an imposition on their (TM), but in the end, more of us would get covered, prices would come down, and America would flourish.

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pluralistic,
@pluralistic@mamot.fr avatar

That's not how it worked out. Prior to ACA, 85% of Americans had insurance. Today, it's 90%. That's not nothing! 5% of the US is 16m people. But what about the 85% - 282m people - who were insured before the ACA? Their insurance costs have doubled - from an average of $15,609 for a family of four in 2009 to $30,260 today. Obama promised that ACA would lower the average family's insurance bill by $2,500/year - but instead, insurance costs increased by some $15,000.

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pluralistic,
@pluralistic@mamot.fr avatar

ACA wasn't just about cost, though: it was supposed to end discrimination, by forcing insurers to take on customers without regard to their "pre-existing conditions." On this score, too, Obamacare has failed: thanks to the ACA's tolerance for high-deductible plans, the number of Americans enrolled in plans that force them to pay for their chronic care out of pocket has skyrocketed from 7% to 32%.

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pluralistic,
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Yes, your insurer can't discriminate against you for having diabetes, but they can make you pay an extra $2,000 in deductibles every year before covering any of your diabetes care.

Now, maybe business-as-usual would have been even worse. Perhaps not passing the ACA would have left Americans poorer and sicker. But we're not comparing ACA with doing nothing - we're comparing ACA with more muscular, direct programs, like .

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pluralistic,
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What if Obama had enlisted his grassroots, summoning up a left-wing answer to the that turned the GOP into the party of no (including no compromises)? What if he'd jettisoned comity, appointed new judges, sent every executive order the Supreme Court rejected back to the court to be struck down again?

What if he'd governed like Lincoln, or FDR:

https://pluralistic.net/2020/09/20/judicial-equilibria/#pack-the-court

There's a name for this kind of politics: it's called :

https://prospect.org/politics/case-for-deliverism/

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pluralistic,
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Deliverism is the idea that if you promise things to the voters, they will vote for you. It's the idea that if you deliver things to the electorate, that they will re-elect you.

Deliverism is a subject of hot debate in the Democratic Party, because Biden is an empty vessel that gets filled by different party factions, which means that his policy is incoherent.

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pluralistic,
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But it includes some of the muscular, get-stuff-done politics of the Dems' Warren-Sanders wing, but that agenda is often undermined by the "responsible grownup" do-nothing Schumer wing.

The responsible grownups say that deliverism is dead, because voters mostly respond to hot-button cultural issues, while material improvements in their lives barely move the needle:

https://democracyjournal.org/arguments/the-death-of-deliverism/

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pluralistic,
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In support of this proposition, deliverism's critics point to Obamacare, lauding it as a policy that made Americans better off, but still failed to win enough support for the Dems to defeat Trump at the end of Obama's second term.

In their rebuttal in , @ddayen and point out that for most Americans, Obamacare didn't produce any improvement to their health care.

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pluralistic,
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The ACA made their care far more expensive, and the ensuing concentration across the sector (mergers between insurers, and between insurers and and pharmacies) made their care worse, too:

https://prospect.org/politics/2023-06-27-moving-past-neoliberalism-policy-project/

The rise in health care costs is no mystery: monopolies have taken over healthcare.

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pluralistic,
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In particular, healthcare is now the domain of , where a fund buys and merges dozens or hundreds of small businesses:

https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/18/wages-for-housework/#low-wage-workers-vs-poor-consumers

Every layer of the healthcare stack is has grown steadily more concentrated since the Obama years: "Hospitals, doctor’s practices, health insurance, pharmaceuticals, ambulances, nursing homes, rehab facilities."

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pluralistic,
@pluralistic@mamot.fr avatar

As Stoller and Dayen put it:

> Every part of our health care world is increasingly controlled by greedy bankers who kill people for money.

The same corporate concentration has eroded wages, meaning that workers are paying for higher healthcare cost out of smaller paychecks.

Stoller and Dayen argue that the polls show that politicians who make material improvement to voters' lives do win popularity.

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pluralistic,
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Take the , which lifted more American children out of poverty than any initiative in history. The majority of voters who received the credit favored the Democrats. After killed the credit, that support flipped, and that cohort now supports the GOP by a 15% margin.

Sure, Biden couldn't order Manchin to support the Child Tax Credit. But he could have gone to WV and campaigned for it with Manchin's base.

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pluralistic,
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He could have loaded the bill with pork for WV that was linked to the credit, and dared Manchin to vote against it. He could have "fought dirty" (which is what the grownups call "fighting to win").

The grownups say that if Biden had done that, he might have alienated Manchin and lost future votes, or caused Manchin to run as a Republican in his next election.
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pluralistic,
@pluralistic@mamot.fr avatar

But that presumes that Manchin won't switch sides anyway, and it presumes that failing to deliver the Child Tax Credit wouldn't also jeopardize the Dems' legislative majority.

The grownups in the Democratic party say we can't win by campaigning on economic issues like monopoly, nor on pocketbook issues like M4A. But when Biden slashed the cost of insulin, his approval numbers shot up.

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pluralistic,
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The grownups' claim that they should steer Democratic electoral strategy is grounded in the idea that they can win elections, and without electoral victories, the Dems can't do anything. The grownups' claim that they should steer Democratic governing strategy is that they can win policy victories, and that these will get the Dems re-elected.

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pluralistic,
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But neither claim holds water. Far from being pie-in-the-sky idealists with no theory of change, the party's left is incredibly good at getting stuff done. Take the antitrust enforcers and , as well as the recently departed . They aren't mere idealists - they're brilliant tacticians and proceduralists who have figured out how to use their existing authority to do more than decades of their predecessors combined:

https://pluralistic.net/2022/10/18/administrative-competence/#i-know-stuff

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pluralistic,
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By contrast, the grownups in the party - people like - have notably, repeatedly failed to master the procedural technicalities needed to exercise comparable authority. You can't be a technocrat unless you understand the techniques:

https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/10/the-courage-to-govern/#whos-in-charge

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pluralistic,
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As for electoral strategy, the consultant class puts all its focus into eking out these incredibly marginal wins - the name of the game is to guarantee a 50.1% win and then move on to the next fight, which ensures that governing will be impossible.

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pluralistic,
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Meanwhile, union organizers like Jane McAlevey seek out 97% majorities for strike votes, in the teeth of voter suppression, gerrymandering, dark money and disinformation campaigns that are far worse than anything we see in a general election. And yet it's the party's labor wing that is smeared as unserious about electoral victories:

https://doctorow.medium.com/a-collective-bargain-a48925f944fe

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pluralistic,
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It's true that the right has been scoring electoral wins with appeals to ideology and identity rather than by promising concrete, material improvements for their supporters' lives. You can win elections that way - but only by demonizing half the country as the enemy and then promising to make their lives miserable.

That doesn't invalidate deliverism as a strategy for winning elections. People may not have the time or interest to follow politics in detail.
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pluralistic,
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They may not understand how the ACA's internal technical workings are structured. The ACA has a lot of deficits - for example, it doesn't allow people to discover which insurance companies deny the most claims:

https://www.propublica.org/article/how-often-do-health-insurers-deny-patients-claims

But even if that data were out there, there's only so much attention people can or want to pay to their insurance policies.

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pluralistic,
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People want health care that works: that takes care of their illnesses and injuries, without bankrupting them. Something like the VA (at its best). Or Medicare (at its best).

Improving peoples' lives isn't merely good governance - it's also good politics. Playing hardball is hard and can be unpleasant, sure, but most of the risk from taking big swings while in office is that the voters won't stand with you and give you the political capital to score big wins.

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pluralistic,
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"I want to do it, now go away" guarantees that there will be no polity at your side, giving you political capital. The politics of grand bargains only produces unimpressive, incremental change.

For all the failings of the GOP's radical wing (and there are many such failings), there is this one virtue: they get stuff done.

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pluralistic,
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The GOP has taken massive swings - seizing the courts, dismantling the administrative states, stacking elections, and siphoning off trillions for its donors:

https://pluralistic.net/2023/06/16/that-boy-aint-right/#dinos-rinos-and-dunnos

The Democrats don't need to copy the GOP's abandonment of material policy for ideological hardlines. Indeed, it shouldn't: when they go low (culture war bullshit), we go high (delivering real benefit to voters).

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pluralistic,
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But the Democrats' left wing could sure stand to learn a trick or two from the GOP's right - namely, how to turn "I want to do it, now go away" into "I want to do it, now make me do it."

eof/

wooliex,
@wooliex@mastodon.social avatar

@pluralistic ACA made it possible for people like me to quit their jobs and start a new business. That would have been impossible pre-ACA because I would not have qualified for individual insurance on the private market.

IanSudbery,
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@pluralistic Blair is an interesting comparison. Blair was king of the "adult-in-the-room" archetype. But, for all that the Blair government was a terrible disappointment in the home stage (let's not even go into foreign policy), most peoples lives did get at least a bit better (even if some of the stuff was done by stealth). Today's Labour seem to have bought the "don't scare the horses" line without also seeing the necessity of also actually making peoples lives better.

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