So yeah... maybe the turtle slowly waking up that he was just a Laptog for reddit and thrown away as soon as they didnt need him anymore ( moderation is allways a volunteer thing and shouldnt be like a 2nd job ).
I've been disenfranchised by the mods for a long time, so while I don't like seeing what use to be a good thing burn to the ground, it really is rooted at the poor administration overall at the site that allowed abusive moderators to run major subs. This outcome is more akin to the snake eating its own tail, but I agree. These toxic abusive moderators getting booted out of a major vein of public discourse is only going to be a positive.
Sure, I just hope it plays out like that. I can easily imagine a situation where instances or communities get too big to fail. What's the point in creating a splinter community where 10 or 100 users migrate to when all the content and discussion takes place in the original community.
On reddit I had started boringdystopia despite there already being the bigger aboringdystopia because I disliked the moderation. I surprisingly saw decent growth in the sub as well.
So just because there’s a bigger “original” out there, doesn’t mean you can’t do well and make a working community.
Ya but how easy would it be to get people to actually move there. Even tho on Reddit theres a rule against duplicate subs there were ways around that (like "real___" or "___uncensored") but the problem was that some ppl just didnt care about poor conduct and the replacement subs sometime ended up not taking off or being overrun by an extreme group (tho sometime it did work.) So I wonder about that here bc a lot of ppl use that to say this isnt a problem here
trying to encourage a code of morality, as seen in my post for mildly infuriating a few days ago mentioning some of the actions these moderators had done against the community and why they are bad for the health of it.
I hope being one of the large communities it offers a template for those to follow, I might not always get it right but I hope to do my best to eliminate it here. Bad mods ruined reddit.
Bad mods weren't the only thing contributing to the downfall of Reddit. Infact, Id argue most moderators of Reddit were genuinely good and helped foster each subreddit community in a reasonable manner. As with all things that involve humans, there will always be bad actors, but I think overall I had maybe 2 instances I can remember in all my 14 years of Reddit where a bad moderator removed content because they didnt agree with it.
That's the one thing I like a great deal, is the decentralization. I'm sure at some point we'll see heavy manipulation across the Fediverse but it will be of a different nature. If mods start running a fiefdom on a major instance, just leave the instance.
It's not even a standoff, an asshole working at Reddit (probably not even the CEO) fired an unpaid volunteer and they're ugly crying while drinking boxed wine and freaking out about how they're gonna regret letting them go online.
It's entirely one sided and nobody really gives a single shit about this dummy. I hope they get the help they desperately need.
Love how the sycophants act all indignant like they weren't kissing ass and licking boots yesterday. Same fuckers that enacted the will of reddit against normal users now want to be seen as fellow refugees.
Wouldn't this just encourage alt accounts to get around the rule? You're only hiding it with sockpuppets instead of allowing it to happen transparently.
You could do it per email address, at least on platforms where your account is tied to one. Doesn't stop it, but if you're only allowed to mod 5 communities, you'd need a lot of sock puppet emails to mod 1000+.
If you own a domain, it's trivial to set up a catch-all redirect to your real email address. I, for example, have this account linked to lemmy_world_grue@example.com. With the maximum length of an email address being 254 characters and the "lemmy_world_" and "@example.com" parts taking up 24 characters, I could create up to 350! - 1 (yes, that's a factorial) more usernames, each linked to a corresponding unique address. (Well, give or take any limits Lemmy imposes on username length, anyway.)
They can't do that because they can't necessarily tell the difference between the personal domain of one person and one providing email addresses to multiple people.
Its easier than you think. Email is pretty consolidated around a few big players these days which means about 10 minutes of work querying the database for how many accounts will be impacted and a quick Google to find out what the domain is used for is all you need to decide whether to ban it or not.
We used to do this on IRC quite often before we could even just Google it.
I still think it’s a good idea. You can create alts to get around bans for instance, but it’s a powerful mod tool nonetheless. Most people will see the rule and stop there, and if they don’t then it’s a good way to justify an IP ban for repeat offenders.
As an aside, the thought of the kind of person that would break rules so that they can provide extra unpaid labor makes me queasy.
I would even allow as high as 25, but probably an amount that can be controlled by the instance. But we should stop these 1000+ communities controlled by one mod.
Reddit was always flawed in that reddit mod ranks were based off time added. So you ended up with a few people that own tons, and can just unmoderate everyone below them. So they arent even accountable to their peers. I recall WallStreetBets had an attempted coup for a deal or something.
Given what Lemmy and kbin fundamentally are, open source federations, this can't be done, at least not universally. Instances will set their own rules and other instances cannot directly set those rules. It is impossible to enforce this.
That said, it makes sense for instances to set similar rules, and tools to help are a good idea.
That guy did NOTHING when he had a chance to stand up against what was going on. he even was mad he got banned bc he admitted he wasnt one of the ones who enacted any actions in protest, and that it was another mod who did it. Were always so annoying and bein an antagoniste just bc he knew he wouldnt get banned for it and drunk from online "power" so idrc.
Good thing for him is that usually when reddit makes a good decision is not permanent so maybe he will be unbanned soon.
He was banned BECAUSE he was badmouthing Reddit. Some of his subs were participating in the blackout and he had pinned some stuff about it. I thought it was very interesting.
From what I’ve learned in the last week, it seems like they abused their mod powers in some of the subs they were on. Someone at Reddit probably used all the chaos to get rid of them now, when many people had been complaining about them for a long time.
She's sexist against nonbinary people. She used to identify as nonbinary, but when she got banned from r/ennn for gender essentialism, she threw a temper tantrum about it and said she was going to be a trans woman because enbies are mean.
How can you be gender essentialist and non-binary at the same time? Also, how can you suddenly decide to be a trans woman? These things make no sense. Was she mentally disturbed?
She mods r/twoxchromosomes, the "women's" sub. The mods are all aware that the name is transphobic, and they knew it a month from when the sub was created. They decided to continue promoting the sub with the transphobic premise until it became a default. They could have made a new sub, especially back when it was brand new, and redirected traffic. But they pushed the transphobia up until it was presented to every single new reddit user for years. I told her she could distance herself from that transphobia, or she could get banned from the nonbinary meme sub. She chose the latter and decided to throw a tantrum against all of nonbinary people about it.
Ahh that would explain my ban from there and me not missing that sub. So much toxic there. Can't question or be "against" women at all. Which is a shame, but led me to the witches against the patriarchy which was a wonderful sub
Oh, witchesvspatriarchy? That's the sub where the mods told me that nonbinary people having a voice in feminism is a threat to women. That's the reason they "center women" on the sub, they think that allowing equality of gender diverse (non-cisman) perspectives is dangerous.
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