I just watched this the other night for the first time since the 80’s. It’s so bad! 😆
And I say that as a lover of the book.
Oh god, the weirding modules!
“Muad’dib!” Pew! “Muad’dib!” Pew!
Lynch didn’t want it to be a “kung fu movie”, but the whole fucking book was kung fu! That’s what made the Fremen better warriors.
They touched on the prophesy stuff, but never even hinted it was planted by the Bene Gesserit hundreds of years ago. The locals were chanting Muad’dib when he landed on the planet! He didn’t pick the name himself.
So many unnecessary changes to the plot like Leto being confused on who was who and blowing the poison in the wrong face.
And I never get tired of being angry at the “monitors are projectors” special effect trope. You ever stare into a projector that’s focused on your face? You can’t see anything but a bright light. You ever look at someone who’s looking at a monitor? You don’t see the words on their face! “But it looks cool!” No it doesn’t! It looks like shit because it’s so antireality.
I don’t know if I agree with foolish I never got to see it in the theater so I definitely will. I would pay to go see a lot of older movies in the theater.
Who is the bigger fool? The fool or <insert that one Old Ben Kenobi quote>? I would definitely watch this in a theater. Same as I have watched the re-release of a bunch of Hitchcock and Miyazaki movies.
Dune is fun and a special kind of weird.
I had lots of friends with massive crushes on Kyle McLaughlin, so I've seen most of what he was in.
The rest of my friends had weird crushes on David Lynch
there was some crossover between 2 and 3
And then we're not considering the whole Patrick Stewart thing. I can't even remember if he played Gurney or Duncan (how is this a name and how much crack have you smoked?) Idaho.
I think Duncan was supposed to be the attractive one... leading to his weird immortal future as a resurrecting ghola so he could keep impregnating people?
The whole thing is bonkers. And I don't mean that in a bad way.
Personally, I think that the original Lynch Dune did a lot to set the tone for sets and costumes for the next 25 years. And it was better than it gets credit for. Jodorowsky... yeah I've seen the drawings.
His cell sample was saved by the Sardaukar because he was such an impressive fighter. Later he was repeatedly resurrected by Leto II partly out of nostalgia and partly for his breeding program
I have a love-hate relationship with David Lynch’s adaptation.
I first saw it when I was about 13 on TV, dubbed in French with no English subtitles. So I barely understood a word of the dialogue. But the pure epicness shone through those challenges and I vowed to see the original English version.
When I saw the original English version a couple of years later it was everything I hoped it would be, and then some. It was amazing.
Then a few years after that I read Herbert’s novel, and that movie was forever tarnished. Reading the meticulous way he forged the plot really shone a light on the movie’s plot shortcomings that I had been ignoring.
So now I see a deeply flawed movie, but also one that is still epic and beautiful and revolutionary to the industry. They really should have made it as a real miniseries from the beginning, so they could give it space to breathe. Trying to cram that incredibly dense novel into just two or three hours on the silver screen was doomed to fail.
Your thoughts on the matter? Personally, I found all the fervor I felt in the first Dune novel to kind of have its wind knocked out of it in Messiah, though there are things that would lend themselves well to cinema.
It’s been a while since I’ve read the series, but I don’t recall feeling the same excitement with the successive novels as I did with the first. I did read all 6 of them, but honestly by the time I started God Emperor I felt as though the storyline was getting a little too off base.
Regarding the Dune movie, it’s what got me into the books, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. As with 90% of adaptations, there is no way for a film to capture the nuances of the source, doubly so for a book such as Dune
I just read both for the first time in the last few weeks and I totally agree. Nothing interesting happens at any part of Messiah. I’m reading through Children of Dune now and I’m hoping it goes somewhere worthwhile.
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