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frog, in OpenAI says Russian and Israeli groups used its tools to spread disinformation

Techbros once again surprised at how their technology is used.

The other breaking headlines for today:

Shock discovery that water is wet.

Toddler discovers that fire is hot after touching it.

Bear shits in woods.

Pope revealed to be Catholic.

DarkNightoftheSoul,
@DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz avatar

AI told me the Pope shit in the woods and that bears are Catholic.

frog,

And probably also that water is hot and fire is wet?

eveninghere,

We aren’t naive. We all knew this will happen. But, as it happened, it was better than banning AI in the free world and giving dictators advantages in AI tech.

Ilandar,

it was better than banning AI in the free world and giving dictators advantages in AI tech.

The US doesn’t need to ban AI. It just needs to stop publicly deploying it, untested and unregulated, on the masses. And some of these big tech companies need to stop releasing open models that can be easily obtained and abused by bad actors. Dictatorships don’t actually like AI internally, because it threatens their control of the narrative within their country. For example, the CCP has been very cautious of it when compared to the US because it is concerned about how it could be employed against the party.

And this whole arms race argument sort of ignores the fact that the US continuing to mass deploy this shit at breakneck speed is already giving the dictators the advantages they need to fuck with democracy. No one needs to have a real war with the US if it starts one with itself.

frog,

Ah, the old “the only way to stop a bad person with a gun is for all the good people to have guns” argument.

Were the dictators even working on their own large language models, or do these tools only exist because OpenAI made one and released it to the public before all the consequences had been considered, thus sparking an arms race where everyone felt the need to jump in on the action? Because as far as I can see, ChatGPT being used to spread disinformation is only a problem because OpenAI were too high on the smell of their own arses to think about whether making ChatGPT publicly available was a good idea.

davehtaylor,

Exactly.

Gods this whole “if we outlaw AI only outlaws will have AI” bullshit is so so tiresome and naive

frog,

It really is. I’m also not a huge fan of “everyone needs to have access to their own personal open source AI, otherwise only corporations will be able to use it”, like somehow the answer to corporations being shit is to give everyone else a greater ability to be shit too. What the world really needs is even more shit!

JackGreenEarth,

Well fortunately it doesn’t matter what you think, and people will keep developing and improving open source AI nonetheless.

frog,

Just don’t complain when the world becomes even more shit than it already is. Open source AIs that rely on scraping content without paying the creator are just as exploitative of workers as corporate AIs doing the exact same thing.

h3mlocke,
SplashJackson, in OpenAI says Russian and Israeli groups used its tools to spread disinformation

No shit, Sherlock.

beefbot, in OpenAI says Russian and Israeli groups used its tools to spread disinformation

Oh hi anyone who monitors my posts accusing other users of being potentially disinfo bots — as if that totally isn’t a thing we all know about at this point

FlashMobOfOne, in Chinese man arrested for allegedly running ‘largest ever’ malware network
@FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org avatar

I switched to Linux this week. I highly recommend it.

Gsus4, in Critics of Putin and his allies targeted inside the EU with Israeli-made Pegasus spyware
@Gsus4@mander.xyz avatar

Backdoors are bad, 'mkay?

jarfil, in Critics of Putin and his allies targeted inside the EU with Israeli-made Pegasus spyware

Software gets used for purpose not as initially intended… surprises no one.

PyroNeurosis,

Not as intended? Or not as advertised?

jarfil,

𝑅 ⊃ Intended ⊃ Advertised ⊃ What people thought

xavier666,

Always open to the highest bidder

jarfil,

I was under the impression they sold to any LEO not on a sanctions list, no bidding required.

Randim bidders probably could grab a copy through some back channels…

kbal, in OpenAI says Russian and Israeli groups used its tools to spread disinformation
@kbal@fedia.io avatar

Before there was ChatGPT to blame, we had the "50 cent army." The fully automated bullshit generators are a cheaper but also a less effective way to do what was already being done. I expect the real problem is somewhere closer to the design of mass social media and the human weaknesses it has evolved to exploit, not so much the super-human powers of generative AI which have been so greatly exaggerated.

c0smokram3r, in OpenAI says Russian and Israeli groups used its tools to spread disinformation
@c0smokram3r@midwest.social avatar
davehtaylor,

You mean to tell me that the purpose-built disinformation machine that you developed has been used by malicious actors to spread disinformation?!

andrew_s, in Phanpy: probably the best mastodon minimal webclient
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It probably is. I'd tried Mastodon but found myself not going back. Phanpy re-invigorated my interest in it.

aleph,
@aleph@lemm.ee avatar

Mastodon has a major engagement problem and I’m not sure why.

It has significantly more users than Lemmy but also manages to feel a lot less social, somehow.

RandomStickman, in Phanpy: probably the best mastodon minimal webclient
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Ooo very slick!

yuribravos, in Phanpy: probably the best mastodon minimal webclient

It’s m’y favorite client for mastodon. The shortcuts are so good I use them even in others places

sleepybisexual, in Critics of Putin and his allies targeted inside the EU with Israeli-made Pegasus spyware

“Protecting these rights” my ass

Nso and human rights are not related at all, fuck nso

Jayjader,

Right?

“Protecting vulnerable individuals” - they must mean Putin and Bibbi, not actual victims of political intimidation, sabotage, etc.

sleepybisexual,

Yep, they “protect human rights” in the same way I protect a bag of crisps- I don’t, I actively destroy it

Megaman_EXE, in Multi-day DDoS storm batters Internet Archive. Think this is bad? See what Big Media wants to do to us, warns founder

I wish the internet archive didn’t pick that battle with these companies. I don’t have faith that they will win when the government sides with corporations so frequently. I hope they have a way to dump everything to the public to be backed up. I fear if they were taken down we would lose all that important information

BlackEco, (edited ) in OpenAI says Russian and Israeli groups used its tools to spread disinformation
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Not that surprising unfortunately :/

Megaman_EXE, in German carmaker Volkswagen says forced labour in one of its sub-supplier's plants in China was not identified as 'no full supply chain transparency exists'

This will happen in every industry. There’s no ethical consumption under our current system because there’s no way to track where resources, materials, items come from, who made them, and how their workers are being treated.

Edit: I just remembered the story from the last year Or two where they found all those kids working in meat plants in the USA. Slavery and other unethical practices happen globally. I wish there was better ways to stop it. I’m glad people are talking about it and hopefully it leads to better outcomes in the future

0x815,

there’s no way tovtrack where resources, material, items come from, who made them

Independent audits are done -they are very common in many industry for a variety of reasons- and they work if done properly.

We could even track the provenance of each material through a trustless system like a blockchain to guarantuee a high level of credibility and transparency, just to name a relatively new technology. This is done already.

rbesfe,

How would block chain prevent a Chinese supplier from lying about where their bauxite shipments come from? The whole crypto space has shown that scams and fraud aren’t made any less prevalent when block chains are involved

0x815,

You wouldn’t trust the Chinese supplier (or any supplier). You’d go to the bauxite shipment company and let them register with the network, you’d send independent auditors to their premises, very much as we do it with ibdependent audits nowadays.

We do need to physically access the premises across the supply chain to verify that ‘on-chain personas’ reflect their ‘real’ identities. But no single authority can control the data, we can be quite sure that all transfers of ownership across the supply chain have been authorized by their controllers. Compared to centralized systems, the blockchain provides us a much higher level of transparency and certainty over the fidelity of the information.

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