With the way Nvidia made mobile GPUs before, the 4070M is all you need. The model numbers on their mobile cards didn’t really matter much, what really mattered was how much power you could pump into them and how well the cooler worked. An 90 class card would be beaten by a 70 class with decent cooling.
However, Nvidia’s power requirements have become absolutely ridiculous over time. There’s no 4090M that makes sense without disingenuous labeling. You’ll end up with one of those monster laptops that requires two power cords to function. They exist, but they’re not exactly good marketing material.
I suspect the future of gaming laptops may very well lie in external GPUs. Now that USB 4(Thunderbolt 3 is becoming commonplace, eGPUs are starting to make sense. Just grab yourself a laptop with a high-end CPU (preferably Intel as AMD still hasn’t figured out the whole Thunderbolt thing well) and any matching GPU if your choice in an external box. You get the benefits of a laptop you can carry with you without risk of back injuries and the gaming performance of the common luggable. Plus, you’re not stuck with the nerfed “mobile” version of GPUs that these companies name like desktop GPUs but sometimes end up being completely different architectures, let alone having any performance similarity to their desktop counterparts.
PC handhelds may also be eating part of the market segment. Gaming laptops make sense for someone in the move with an extensive PC games library, but handhelds easily replace that market trend. You can probably get your needs fulfilled with an ROG Ally or Legion or whatever it’s called, and throw in a mid tier Chromebook for the homework and office work that needs doing. Only the people that want the power hungry 100W+ mobile GPUs are getting stiffed in that regard, and they’re a niche within a niche.
I do expect laptops with a 5090M to come out next year, maybe even this year, but they’re not in a form factor that companies want to show off at trade shows anymore. We’re moving to a world where laptops with 4K screens lasting more than 24 hours on a battery is valued more than 30 minutes of mobile GPU gaming at 120Hz.
Every couple of years, a new modular laptop is brought out. And every couple of years, consumers don’t buy them because they’re bulky, expensive, and unwieldy. This killed laptops with MXM GPUs (among other problems, like GPU white-lists) years ago.
While they’re not gaming focused, the latest Framework 16" laptops have a replaceable GPU. They’re also incredibly repairable. They serve a niche market segment so expect to pay for all of those features.
I disagree. The thinness (and lightness) is a huge selling factor.
MXM has been around for ages and it died out of disinterested. Now, with GPUs and CPUs sucking down hundreds of watts of power, you’ll need a new swapppable GPU standard (like the standard Framework invented) because you have to design your laptop to get rid of all that heat. Manufactures have gotten pretty good at designing laptops that can just about cool their GPUs without weighing a ton and being thicker than a dictionary, but they don’t have that advantage when they don’t know what GPU is going to be installed.
People who care about this stuff will know to look for laptops that have the features they need, but very few people need them. Regular consumers don’t know the difference because they don’t need this stuff. The only general consumers who have ever asked me if their laptop can be upgraded in that way we’re the people who bought a 300 euro Window laptop who just found out “new” doesn’t mean “fast”, or people who think they’ve found This One Weird Trick to get a fast laptop for cheap.
Luckily, most modern laptops support eGPUs so you can upgrade your laptop, and carrying around the extra brackets and cooling capacity is an option.
we can agree to disagree then. people i know tend to favor thicker phones after i explain they can have better battery life and etc. they are just being misinformed.on that one.
besides, engineers should be in charge of that. not the bean counters, not marketers and not designers.
people who are completely misinformed shouldnt dictate how we make our stuff
If I understand correctly from the article, you have to enter ‘OOBE\BYPASSNRO’ in command prompt during installation to prevent it from asking to connect to internet. If that’s the only way to set up a local account, that’s hardly an accessible option.
As as I said in my other comment: you can unplug your ethernet cable, and on Win 11 Pro and above there’s an “I don’t have internet” button you can click.
There’s no clear path from getting the computer out of the box just setting it up without internet. If you call the manufacturer and they know what the hell they’re doing they’ll walk you through doing the OOBE no internet fix. It just needs to be an option in the damn operating system. The fact that they’re hiding it from you is unconscionable.
It was not an option one week ago when i tested it. Maybe because I was in WiFi range and Microsoft assumed you have to know the password to at least one of them to pass the wifi screen. No skip button. But could create a new account as unverified using gmail address.
Gaming laptops have always been an extremely expensive but less capable desktop. Their portability is laughable, and pointless. Their battery life is non-existent, and if you can’t easilly move them, and you also have to plug them in all the time, then what does a laptop give you?
Not to mention their bad keyboards, bad speakers, a touchpad? and compromised screen. Not only should they be left behind, they shouldn’t have existed in the first place.
I’ve used a gaming laptop since 2016 an Acer Predator 15. I use it on the couch, always have done. It has none of the issues you describe. It’s perfect, I wouldn’t go back to a desktop.
Hard disagree. I can game anywhere I can get power, wireless mice are ridiculously cheap, mine weighs less than 5lbs, heavy compared to ultra lights but compared to a desktop that’s literally nothing. If you’re using the built in speakers on any device, you deserve the bad audio quality lol. My laptop’s screen has no issues. 240hz, anti-glare, 1ms response time. This really should be about low end gaming laptops.
genuine question: do people use twitter to catch up with folks?
As much as I hate it, I still occasionally use fb to message old friends, and instagram to keep up with friends. twitter… used to be for following celebrities but i’ve gone off that since (and if i wanted to, i can do that on insta).
I guess it is more following of people of certain topics that talk about them in twitter. Like someone follows few people abour their hobby, some politicians maybe, and people of other interests they have. I haven’t really gotten the idea that people use it to talk to friends per say, or follow them, but for sure people do that as well but maybe it is not the main point.
Though I could be spewing shit because I don’t use it. Just the vibe I’ve been getting over the years.
Not really, though. Those handhelds all have weak GPUs with very limited VRAM and performance. I don’t think there’s a handheld carrying a 4070M out at the moment.
Regardless of if their gpus are weaker, they are absolutely causing the focus on gaming laptops to wane, and wane hard. Why build a high end $2000 laptop that sells 10,000 units when you could make a $600-1000 handheld that sells 250,000 to 3,000,000 units?
“It tells you exactly what to do. Like, It told me to get four new bags from the rack. When I did that it told me to go to trash can #1. Once I got there it told me to open the cabinet and pull out the trash can. Once I did that it told me to check the floor for any debris. Then it told me to tie up the bag and put it to the side, on the left. Then it told me to put a new bag in the can. Then it told me to attach the bag to the rim. Then it told me to put the can back in and close the cabinet. Then it told me to wipe down the cabinet and make sure it’s spotless. Then it told me to push the help button on the can to make sure it is working. Then it told me to move to trash can #2. Like that.”
They try to make the job as easy as possible, so no training is required and literally anybody could do the work. That way they don’t need any skilled labor at all.
It’s hilarious – and also a bit sad – that Tan and his ilk assume that someone must be paying me to write. They apparently cannot imagine any human motivation beyond money. It does not occur to them that a person could simply be inspired to action because they care about things like community, democracy and truth.
See also: “if people weren’t under threat of unemployment ruining their lives, they wouldn’t be motivated to work.” Many right-wingers seem to have no conception of being motivated to do something because it’s good to do.
On a new install, before powering up, make sure you don’t start it up with Ethernet plugged in, when you get to the Wi-Fi connection stage hit Ctrl+f10
Type in
oobe\bypassnro
And press enter. The computer will restart and now when you get to the Wi-Fi connection screen you’ll have a like that says “I don’t have internet”.
Always online with kernel-level anti-cheat has a tendency to not work, but that is probably a red flag since there are thousands of different games you can play that don’t snoop around ring-0
Try emailing manufacturers and asking if they already have support, if they dont request that they start or you won’t consider their parts for your next build. Your wallet is a powerful tool that can cause companies to bend to your will if you know how to use it.
It’s not a simple one to one. Everyone’s use case and experience is different. Don’t get me wrong, I’m all in on the FOSS train and I don’t approve of Microsoft’s direction with Windows but it’s still a consistently hassle-free experience compared to Linux for people who just don’t wanna deal with distros, terminals, repositories or compatibility layers.
Y Combinator seems like a nexus of creepy and unhinged techbros, I’m not surprised they have a CEO who wields antisemitic conspiracy theories against his critics.
100%. I came here to say the same thing. The vibe at ycomb is like condescending fascism. I’ve been banned many times. Lemmy is a vast improvement for tech news/info.
Wow, from the article you linked here’s one of them plotting to wield a fascist mob against a journalist just like a proper villain, in case there were any doubts:
“If things get hot, it may be interesting to sic the Dark Enlightenment audience on a single vulnerable hostile reporter to dox them and turn them inside out with hostile reporting sent to their advertisers/friends/contacts,” Mr. Srinivasan said in an email viewed by The New York Times, using a term, “Dark Enlightenment,” that was synonymous with the neoreactionary movement.
In 2013, a significant portion of the rationalist community shifted focus to Scott Alexander’s Slate Star Codex.
Now he’s moved to Substack as Astral Codex Ten. He’s started his own psychiatric practice as well, however, “Unfortunately, we are no longer accepting new patients, and we’re not expecting this to change in the medium-term future.”
They’re a Human tribe who has not decided against interacting with the wider world, so they have as much as a right to access the Internet as anyone else
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