firewyre,

HP literally defines my hate of printers, this is hilarious.

Xavier,

With all the interest in 3D printer and large communities building their own printers, where are the amateur 2D printers? Did we just jump to 3D printing because it was cooler (which I also admit is amaizing)?

I just want a basic 2D inkjet or laser printer that doesn’t stop printing because magenta is low or doesn’t waste ink to “clean” the print head, nor make up weird errors because it doesn’t have access to the internet.

What about printers without ink? Would it be too hard/complicated to use a lower power laser (instead of a laser cutter) to burn/scorch a thin micrometric, if not nanometric, layer of normal everyday printing/copy white paper?

As a child, I remember scorching magazine/journal paper and all sorts of wood materials with my grandmother’s handheld magnifying lens under the summer sun in the yard. I was able to draw stuff without burning some of the material completely.

lolcatnip,

What about printers without ink?

Laser printers have existed for a long time and they don’t use ink, but they do use toner. I’m gonna assume just scorching the paper has been proven to be a bad idea, because someone would have tried to market a toner-free printer by now otherwise.

My best guess is that it’s very hard to scorch paper to a color anywhere near black without creating a serious fire hazard. Even if you could calibrate the laser just right, the next batch of paper could burn because it has a slightly different weight, texture, or composition.

You’d probably end up being special paper stuff something in it that turns black at a fairly low temperature. That’s pretty common for things like receipt printers.

entropicshart,

Zink Paper is an alternative but nowhere as cheap as regular paper+ink

The paper has several layers: a backing layer with optional pressure sensitive adhesive, heat-sensitive layers with cyan, magenta and yellow dyes in colorless form, and an overcoat.

CosmicCleric,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

Someone did some market research and found out they’re in the dog house.

reksas,

hp has sullied their brand pretty well

Bwaz,

The HP logo is all it takes to make printers hated at this point. Couldnt give me one even if it included 10yrs of ink.

Joelk111,

I hated my mom’s Epson way more than any HP I’ve ever used. It was nice because it was a ink-tank model, but the software was awful.

This is kinda like saying I’d rather step in the slightly smaller pile of shit.

Halcyon, (edited )
@Halcyon@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

It’s not their printers which are hated, it’s their business model of selling overpriced ink and toner cartridges to a price that’s higher than champagne prices and using technical devices to make it impossible to use other toner sources, firmware to make printers stop working when ink runs anywhere near low (they define ‘low’ as 33% ink left), while at the same time ensuring that as much ink and toner as possible are wasted through unnecessary testing and calibration and cleaning processes.

pastermil,

To add to your point, their printers are indeed hated, but it is simply a symptom of their terrible business model and not the problem itself.

ikidd, (edited )
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

No, I hate their bloated as fuck drivers as well.

hakunawazo,

Not to forget possibility of machine identification code (in best case waste of toner/ink, in worst case dangerous).

en.m.wikipedia.org/…/Machine_Identification_Code

Snapz,

No, we hate their fucking printers as well. Non-removable printheads and automatic retraction to try to stop you from unclogging their shit hardware. I’d also include the firmware in critique of their printers, what you mention above, as well as limiting black printing if color is low (even with dedicated black cartridges). Arbitrarily restricting scanning on some models, etc.

We decidedly DO hate their printers.

Halcyon,
@Halcyon@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

That are all symptoms of said business model. And Hewlett Packard isn’t the only company with such abominations.

Alexstarfire,

Does this count as false advertising?

uhmbah,

We have some old, great HP printers. Rock solid.

As they die, Brother, my Brother.

Fuck the latest HP.

KairuByte, (edited )
@KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Iirc Brother printers are heading down a similar dark path. Though I don’t recall where I got that info, so take it with a grain of salt.

Edit: I somehow misspelled brother.

Seventhlevin,

Every Brother printer I have personally owned over the past 20 years was a colossal piece of shit.

NaoPb,

Inkjet or laser?

Seventhlevin,

Several different models of inkjet multifunction stations.

NaoPb,

I believe their laser printers should be of better quality than the inkjets.

maccentric,

And yet, somehow still better than HP.

I can’t stand that company (their laptops are shite as well, except for maybe some of the Omens).

Seventhlevin,

I believe it.

Bashnagdul,

Hp 4000 series laser printers are still the bomb

NaoPb,

I have a 4050 and a 1200 still going strong. When they do go I have a Kyocera and a Brother to replace them.

airportline,
@airportline@lemmy.ml avatar
urquell,

Y’all still print?

TheDarksteel94,

Lots of people do. And let me blow your mind some more: Lots of countries still use fax machines, for whatever unholy reason. Those things can be a pain in the ass to troubleshoot sometimes.

FrankTheHealer,

It’s necessary sometimes in office/work settings.

Home printing isn’t necessary most of the time nowadays since everything is online. But a lot of corporate/office/industrial/professional type work environments print A LOT of stuff. They still need to buy printers and ink and get them serviced etc.

helenslunch,
knobbysideup,

They were when HP was run by engineers.

Imgonnatrythis,

HP is a fallen giant that cannot stand back up so uses it’s grotesque fingernails to dig itself deeper down into the ground instead.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks, Meg Whitman.

eestileib,

Whitman was eBay.

You’re probably thinking of Carly Fiorina. But it’s not like she was the only turd CEO there.

Copythis,

I am a professional photocopier technician, focusing on office sized, but also desktop laser photocopiers. I am certified in HP, Lexmark, various Xerox models, and various Canon photocopiers.

I say with all of my heart: Fuck HP.

helenslunch,

Marry, fuck, kill. Which manufacturer are you marrying?

valkyre09,

Well, shit I must be from Alabama cuz I’m marrying my Brother

Tikiporch,

That’s gold, Jerry!

TJDetweiler,

Thanks for capitalizing that B

bingbong,

Their brother’s name is Brother

verity_kindle,

Ricoh, we just bought a big one for our volunteer office and it has NOT been a PITA for six whole weeks. No attention needed from me, the elderly and/or technology illiterate volunteers print all day with zero stress. Thank you, Ricoh, you beautiful. golden. Bastards.

MonkderZweite,

What, now even the office printers?

jose1324,

Especially the office models

RobotToaster,
@RobotToaster@mander.xyz avatar
Fubarberry,
@Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz avatar

Does anyone at HP even use their own printers?

balancedchaos,

Depends if there’s a camera nearby or not.

“They’re gone? Bring back the Brother.”

dan1101,

Probably not the inkjets. The lasers have been good. Old ones were eternal.

Semi-Hemi-Demigod,
Semi-Hemi-Demigod avatar

I remember programming rude messages into the LCDs of those old HP Laserjets in college. Good times

TimeSquirrel,
TimeSquirrel avatar

"FEED ME A STRAY CAT"

"BBQ SAUCE LOW"

Some of my favorites.

Dudewitbow,

I wish i had the answer to this, as i work ewaste in the silicon valley, but HP isnt one of our clients.

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