Apparently, Tumblr's CEO stepped on his crank and outed himself as a TERF. We does not abide the TERF. No we doesn't.
If you're fleeing #Tumblr and checking out the #fediverse, welcome! I hope you find a home here. You have quite a few options with #Mastodon, #Miskey, #Firefish#Sharkey (I'm posting this from sharkey.world), and the practically thousands of instances within those. Each have their own flavor and features, so don't feel you have to settle on one off the bat. It's not unusual to see new users sign up on one instance, then eventually move to another, then another before they find the community that fits them best.
Looking for something more "bloggy"? Bear Blog and Pika are two services offering simple blogging tools with an emphasis on "small blogging". They are unassociated with the major blogging platforms and offer a fresh alternative to them.
@TheLastOfHisName
> Tumblr's CEO stepped on his crank and outed himself as a TERF
Any chance of adding a link to an example of this?
> If you're fleeing Tumblr and checking out the fediverse
... it's not the first time. We already welcomed a bunch of furries and other communities when Tumblr made it's "anti-porn" pivot under previous management.
@musingoddity
> in my opinion it's just another example of how awful moderation is on
... any site so large that the mod team doesn't understand and sympathise with the culture of people using it.
Ironically, this is why I want huge sites like Tumblr, WordPress.org and FarceBook's Chains to federate over ActivityPub. That allows more people to leave them permanently, for smaller servers run by their own communities, without losing touch with their friends still on the mega-sites.
>Furthermore, she said this under extreme duress because she was suffering from obvious and documented online harassment and the moderators that should have been helping were siding against her.
Where is this sympathy when I get harassed and lash out at people or get into disagreements with mods? Oh wait, I'm not queer. Silly me, I forgot only protected classes matter 🤦♂️
I'm actually kind of confused why you are against this. Isn't it basically petition and protest but in the digital space? You seem like a fairly liberal person (correct me if I'm wrong). Why is it a civil right when it comes to real-world politics, but (idk what you'd call it, bad behaviour?) when it comes to online politics?
Me:
> Anyone who fights with mods in public about mod decisions is asking to be booted
@Hyolobrika
> I'm actually kind of confused why you are against this
Imagine I'm drinking at your bar and I'm being a dick to other guests. You tell me to pull my head in, and I respond by challenging your right to check my behaviour. Maybe this is...
> basically petition and protest
But I doubt you'd let it stand. If I persisted, I doubt I'd be welcome to drink there in the future.
You could just as easily imagine that you're the head of a country and you see someone protesting a policy you hold. How would you feel?
Isn't that fundamentally the same kind of thing?
Also, you don't have to challenge someone's "right" to check your behaviour in order to explain why you think you did nothing wrong.
More online forums should be run like democratic countries with rule of law and standards for moderators, I think. Not all of them, but more.
I'm thinking of starting an organisation to certify such things.
@Hyolobrika
> you don't have to challenge someone's "right" to check your behaviour in order to explain why you think you did nothing wrong
You do that in private, and with respect for the fact you are a guest in their space. That's what makes it different from protesting government policy or corporate practices. Those affect us in our own spaces, and common spaces.
@Hyolobrika
> And that's why we shouldn't have mods
This sounds great it theory, but what about spam? Flooding? CSAM? Death threats? Doxxing? Show me a P2P social network that can prevent these, without forcing each person using it into a constant game of whack-a-mole with every instance of them.
Like everyone who's ever been admin of an online space, I've learned the hard way that moderation is a necessary evil. Mike Masnick laid it out pretty well;
Question: so what's the attitude now towards WordPress blogs using the ActivityPub plugin to be part of the fediverse? Or Tumblr implementing AP as previously flagged? @TheLastOfHisName
@paninid
> I literally decided on an off-ramp for Substack using WordPress
I guess what it comes down to is, if you're not part of the decision-making body for the hosting you use (eg in a platform cooperative), you have to be prepared to cope with online neighbours whose opinions disgust you. Also, however many degrees of separation you insist on, ultimately there's only one internet, and you have to share it with those people if you want to use it.
Share it? Okay.
Support their platforms? No. We don't HAVE to stay on their platforms. The alternatives may not have all the bells and whistles a user has grown used to, but there are alternatives.
@TheLastOfHisName
Is about trying to change people's minds about these important things? If so, does erecting all these rice paper walls between our net presence and theirs really the best way to do that?
If it's about trying to flush people with the wrong opinions about important things off the net? Even if that was possible, they still live on the same planet as us. So is it the best way to mitigate the problems these opinions can cause outside the net?
@Hyolobrika
> My end game is to not have to see their nonsense
OK, so it's not a tactic with a political goal. Not about reducing the net "evil" in the world, so much as avoiding it. Which means it's more of an aesthetic preference, not really the moral position it's often presented as.
I suspect this is not unusual. So why the rancour against people willing to expose themselves to a bit of nonsense with the goal of reducing the net "evil" in the world?
>I suspect this is not unusual. So why the rancour against people willing to expose themselves to a bit of nonsense with the goal of reducing the net "evil" in the world?
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