Did someone say that my million dollar plane will cost another million dollars to operate? Oh noes, I can't...LOL - it's just money; I found 2 millions by raising the price of my apartments by $100 a month. Enjoy your new rent, proles!
No…taxing them doesnt get rid of them. Rich people have plenty of money to pay fees/fines/penalties. That being said, there is no reason for overly draconian measures either. This climate thing is a tad oversold. Sensible, affordable solutions that dont wreck our way of life can work. Nothing more than that.
We’ve sort of gone beyond the taxation phase, in my humble opinion. The world is on fire. It’s really time for more drastic moves and we can’t afford to keep coddling the wealthy.
The major issue blocking their action is that every Republican votes against it, and a handful of Democrats are bought off, so they vote with the Republicans. The Republicans hold a majority in the House of Representatives, so this means that no new climate legislation is going to pass before the 2024 election.
In 2008 we had cap-and-trade legislation, but it didn’t get a vote in the Senate because supporters counting votes saw it couldn’t get even 40 votes
in 2022 the Inflation Reduction act passed, getting 50 + 1 votes in the Senate, after being converted in to an almost-all-carrots-no-stick type bill to appease the few Democrats who were being paid off by the fossil fuels industry.
We’re on the right trajectory here, just not nearly fast enough
My preferred solution is to tax carbon, and redistribute it as a tax credit/stimulus evenly to the population. I like that better than treating it as normal income so it stays focused on being a Piguovian Tax and not repurposed as a general revenue source.
But honestly, I’m in favor of pretty much any carbon tax initiative.
Right. There’s no reason why private jets shouldn’t be paying to offset 100% of their emissions. For cars it’s a different story because it’s a tax on the poor for something they need. Private jets are purely luxuries, only used by the wealthy, and have a viable alternative.
not real ones, most of them are scams where countries accept money in order to not deforest areas they werent going to anyway, double dip, or just deforest regardless
The closest bus to me is about a 1.5 hour walk, with the path options either being, the side of a 70 mph highway, or the side of 45 mph side roads (no sidewalks).
The bus pass would just take up space in my wallet and nothing more.
I work from home to reduce my car usage dramatically, and already pay annual taxes on the car itself as well as every gallon of gas (in top of standard sales tax) that goes into it. The car is 15 years old and gets over 30mpg.
Your ‘easy’ solution requires uprooting people’s lives dramatically and is, dare I say it, an incredibly naive take on the real problems that the planet, nations, and individual people actually have.
And before you say ‘move somewhere with people’ I do live where people are, I live in between two of the biggest cities in my state, moving closer to those cities requires a) a huge sum of liquid cash, and b) a huge increase in my cost of living.
Think critically about the world you are in, have perspective about other people’s living situations, and have respect for your peers. Blanket solutions are historically ineffective.
And what about the places that aren’t between cities? Rural areas are larger than you think. You’re expecting people to walk 4 miles and wait 2 hours for a bus on a regular basis.
I expect people to cycle 10 miles on a regular basis. these aren’t real problems that you’re describing. You’re just justifying the harm you’re causing the environment because you’re too lazy to make very minor efforts that most of the world does already.
I mean, yes, this is good, but it’s still small potatoes compared to the fact that we need UNPRECEDENTED industry-wide EMERGENCY action, starting like 20 years ago.
We’re in the throws of mass-extinction. We are predicting a BILLION climate refugees. And every horrible prediction is coming true way earlier than expected.
Mass media isn’t screaming about it every night, so we trick ourselves into believing it must be a manageable situation. But it simply isn’t. We aren’t just headed for a cliff. We’ve already fallen off it. We just haven’t noticed because we haven’t started bouncing off the sharp rocks yet.
I don't think anyone has ever talked about drinking straws or plastic bags as having a meaningful effect on carbon emissions. Reducing their use does reduce the amount of plastic that winds up in landfills and the wilderness, which is the actual point of those proposals.
From some quick data I found, aviation is responsible for 2.5% of carbon emissions. In the US, about 17% of flights are private. Probably a fair number of those are hobbiests, but even if you take that number at face value, you could summarily execute all people who take private jets, and you'd reduce carbon emissions by about 0.425 percent. I'm skeptical that that is going to really make a massive difference in the grand scheme of things.
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