Rozauhtuno,
@Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

If your business can’t afford to pay a fair wage, it doesn’t deserve to exist.

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  • ours,

    Will somebody please think about the poor stock price 😢.

    slazer2au,

    Press X to doubt.

    HurlingDurling,

    Exactly, they shure as shit don’t have a problem giving their “food” away now. The truth is most likely that telling their investors that they won’t make so much money will be a devastating financial blow.

    nilloc,

    In our local fast foods most places are already advertising at least $19 hour for new hires. Is also over $20 for a kids meal and one adult meal “deal”, which takes less than 5-6 minutes to sell me.

    They’re raking it in.

    HurlingDurling,

    I mean, my kid worked at a McD and got so much free food and not the stuff they are about to throw, but he would straight up make himself a quarter pounder combo, and then make me one fresh for free as many times as he wanted. He even would stop by on his off days, walk in and cook himself something and they didn’t care because of how much money they brought in. It was stupid and they should definitely raise the salaries of their employees instead of just showering them with free McD food.

    nilloc,

    Yeah talk about a blessing and a curse.

    This is why labor needs to wake up, like it had to in the 30s.

    reverendsteveii,

    if we have to pay a living wage fast food will die

    Then die.

    Rozauhtuno,
    @Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar
    reflex,
    reflex avatar
    Mautobu,

    Sounds like McDonald’s can’t afford to do business. I guess the free market will have them close.

    prole,

    Oh honey, no. The free market only applies when it works in their favor.

    rhacer,

    There is nothing “free market” about a forced minimum wage.

    There are lots of arguments to be made for an increased minimum wage, at least try to be smart when making them.

    TruTollTroll,
    @TruTollTroll@lemmy.world avatar

    The irony of you asking for smarts to be considered in regards to a mega billion dollar corp, who can more than afford this change for the entire country, let alone just California, is astounding while you are commenting the stupidest crap about “free markets” in relation to this news. It is hilariously pedantic…

    PP_BOY_,
    @PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

    There is literally nothing incorrect with the statement “enforced minimum wages go against the free market philosophy” and the statement itself makes no claim one way or the other about their personal views. It’s just pointing out a factually incorrect claim. Ironically enough, your paragraph reply is the hilariously pedantic part

    TruTollTroll,
    @TruTollTroll@lemmy.world avatar

    There is a lot wrong with that statement, but one look at your username,tells me I’m not speaking to anyone worth conversating with… pp.boy… pretty on the nose with proud boy huh…

    PP_BOY_, (edited )
    @PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

    What? Lmao you’re insane it’s a reference to my big fat hog between my legs. But anyway, please explain how the statement is wrong

    TruTollTroll,
    @TruTollTroll@lemmy.world avatar

    Yeah, that adds up… proud boys think they have something to show off when in reality we all laugh at that member you call a penis but is the size of an enlarged clit… no shame bro…

    PP_BOY_,
    @PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

    You are on something.

    But anyway, back to the conversation. Use your degree in economics (which you clearly have) to explain exactly how state-enforced minimum wages do not directly conflict with the ideas of lassaiz-faire free market economies. Please, be as specific as possible.

    orcrist,

    Yes except that they were lying and they will still do business. :-/

    massacre,

    The group said the costs “simply cannot be absorbed by the business model.”

    They can do business, just not be as profitable if they can’t pay slave wages. The problem here is in the quote… they don’t want to change the model where the franchisee’s earn a little less and their crews can actually afford rent.

    princessnorah,
    @princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Why the heck should the franchisee be footing the bill? Make corporate McDonald’s pay for it. Surely they’ve made enough money off ice cream machines by now to afford it…

    ILikeBoobies,

    They can just run the kitchens themselves to save a few bucks

    geolaw,

    This is a threat, not capitulation

    0x2d,
    NigelFrobisher,

    They may only be able to give executives a 20% raise next year if this goes ahead.

    bookmeat,

    Awww. I’m so sad for these billionaires.

    Thurkeau,

    Would you pay $20 for a Big Mac? …though they’ll probably automate the cooking and cashier positions, so they don’t have to pay an employee what I make as a robotics technician.

    mwguy,

    Good.

    TopRamenBinLaden,

    So it turns out that you are underpaid just like these McDonald’s employees. Unless by robotics technician you mean something like a roomba repairman. Maybe support your fellow laborers when they are fighting for fair wages. It shouldn’t be a competition.

    kwking13,

    No, I wouldn’t. That’s why they won’t price it at $20. They’re gonna have to figure something else out or just have a complete negative loss in the state. You can try to price gouge people but they’ll likely just go somewhere else. This is some bs thinking through and through

    Jas91a,

    I think if they could have done that (automate the cooking and cashier) to save paying $3 wages they would have.

    0x2d,

    was the whole point of this comment to flex your job in robotics

    Blackmist,

    I don’t think he’s a very good robotics technician if he’s only making $20 an hour.

    He could be flipping burgers and making that.

    APassenger,

    How much of the overall cost do you think is labor? Because your dollar figure implies you’ve overestimated by plenty.

    Assuming USD.

    Player2,

    Have we seen any of that happen in the places the company already operates that enforce a decent wage?

    IHaveTwoCows,

    No. No, we have not. All these clowns get their economics lessons from assholes and blowhards on MultiMillionaire Fascist Talk Radio

    Lightsong,

    Are you ignorant or what? There’s proof worldwide that paying your workers decent wages doesn’t cost more. Also, imagine what would happen if workers actually had money to spend… Guess where they’d spend.

    IHaveTwoCows,

    Always this bullshit response from so-called fReE mArKeT experts

    They never tire of being proven dead wrong over and over and over and over…

    hrimfaxi_work,
    @hrimfaxi_work@midwest.social avatar

    The guy who owns the franchise my nephew worked at in high school drove an actual Rolls Royce. He owned a few, but goddamn. The guy who owned the franchise I worked at 20 years earlier owned like 3 houses or something and flew planes as a hobby (idk if he owned one).

    Excuse me for not giving a shit about a financial blow to people like them.

    Hoomod,

    I just think of the SNL skit/song “boomers got the vax”

    At one point Kenan Thompson is portraying a wealthy boomer and the song goes like;

    I got the big-ass house and the SUV. Got my second house two, and my third house three. And the place in Vermont, and one in Miami!

    Damn, I got five houses? That’s a lot. Good for me.

    Dekthro,
    lagomorphlecture,

    Has McDonald’s seen what it charges for its garbage food these days? $20 ain’t shit.

    June,

    McDonald’s used to be relatively cheap.

    Now it costs as much as a lot of the sit down restaurants in my area. Getting out for under $16 is a task and it’s more likely gonna cost me $20+.

    Wendy’s is still affordable for the most part and has taken over those times I’d normally go to McDonald’s.

    Pyr_Pressure,

    You can go to the pub and get a better burger and a beer for almost the same as McDonald’s.

    CeeBee,

    I live in a small town, McDonald’s is the only “fast food” place here until last week when a Popeye’s chicken opened. That place had been packed every day since they opened. You can get an equivalent meal for two at nearly the price of one meal at McDonald’s.

    Plus the food at Popeye’s is way better.

    vaultdweller013,

    The only decently affordable fast food places are wendys and taco bell. Atleast that ive noticed from the big ones. The local ones can still be cheap.

    June,

    Wingstop is pretty decently priced too.

    Panda Express was too but stopped being reasonable around the time they launched their rewards program.

    vaultdweller013,

    Fucken rewards programs, the battlepass of food and retail.

    June,

    They used to be a nice bonus. Now they seem to be an excuse to raise prices.

    IHaveTwoCows,

    McDs is one of the longest-lasting and most profitable chains in the world and a bunch of Ayn Rand-slurping assholes insist that they cannot possibly survive without exploitation so WONT YOU THINK OF THE POOR MULTIMILLIONAIRES??!!!

    Tired8281,

    Don’t threaten me with a good time.

    uis,
    @uis@lemmy.world avatar

    Poor-poor tiny McDonald’s.

    ohlaph,

    And? Of course it’ll cost them money. They have been hoarding pay increases for years. 8f your business model doesn’t support paying a decent wage, your business model sucks.

    pdxfed,

    I’m sure most of their employees will still draw public assistance to supplement their basic needs. Fuck these companies.

    ZombieTheZombieCat,

    Yeah, wasn’t this the whole point of capitalism or something? If you can’t compete in the free market then gtfo and all that

    floofloof,

    That’s what it says, but it’s just marketing. Capitalists don’t actually believe in fair competition. They believe in themselves having all the stuff, not anyone else, by any means necessary.

    Jas91a,

    Except when big Business expect government handouts then they’re okay with socialism

    IHaveTwoCows,

    Fun fact: capitalists oppose free markets by an overwhelming margin

    llamapocalypse,

    It’s not like $20/ hr is even that much money - ~40k a year probably won’t even qualify you to rent an apartment most places anyone wants to live.

    June,

    God it’s so wild. When I was a teenager $20/hour was good money. That’s just 20 years ago. Now it’s impossible to live on that wage in my area.

    llamapocalypse,

    Yeah, doing some quick math, if the rental wants 3x the rent in income to qualify and you make $40k, you’re at best going to be able to qualify for something that runs ~$1100. That’s a really crappy 1-bedroom in my medium-sized FL city if you’re really lucky.

    June,

    1100 is the floor for a shitty 1 bed in my city.

    Someone that has a teenager who needs their own room is going to pay no less than $1650 according to the Zillow search I just did.

    IHaveTwoCows,

    And according to the McDonalds apologists, IT’S YOUR FAULT!!!1!1!1!!1

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