Chairman of the Joint Chiefs says ‘US credibility is at stake’ when asked about Trump’s NATO comments

ghostdoggtv, 3 months ago

Joint Chiefs need to lock Trump up because civilian politicians don’t fucking get it.

someguy3, 3 months ago (edited 3 months ago)

At what point do Trump supporters wake up? He’s literally inviting WW3.

*We’ve gone from appeasement doesn’t work, to random preemptive offerings.

rammer, 3 months ago

I’d like to say when the shit hits the fan. But that was years ago. So I think it’ll be when they get real personal consequences. And even then for some it’ll never be over.

pelotron, 3 months ago

I think they actively want WW3 so they can play out their end-times-left-behind fantasies they’ve been nursing for the last 20 years. What are all their ammo hoards for if they don’t get to use them?

RizzRustbolt, 3 months ago

A weapon unused is a useless weapon.

d33pblu3g3n3, 3 months ago

Honest question: Why is Trump leading the polls? The guy is doing and has already done everything he can to destroy the US on the world stage. Can the average voter not see that?

Morgoon, 3 months ago

I think Michael Moore really nailed it with “Human molotov cocktail”

NovaPrime, 3 months ago

The average voter is a fucking moron.

HobbitFoot, 3 months ago

But he’ll hurt “the right people”.

ChunkMcHorkle, 3 months ago (edited 26 days ago)

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Nacktmull, 3 months ago

With Trump in the game, the USA is not a reliable ally any more. It´s time to shift NATO leadership to the EU.

aelwero, 3 months ago

I absolutely defy the implication that US credibility is in any way whatsoever reflected by trump… Even if he manages to get elected again, he’d still obviously not be representing all of the US…

It’s like saying all Canadians are super liberal because they elected Trudeau… People know better.

I’d go with “reputation”, but not credibility.

Sidyctism, 3 months ago

But this specifically about the credibility of a nation, not its people.

Algaroth, 3 months ago

Trump pulled out of pretty much every deal and treaty Obama had made and started trade wars with US allies. This has made diplomacy significantly harder for the US because now we all know that any deal we make with the US is only good until possibly the next election. This means it will be harder for the US to make any deal with any nation and the US are as reliant on global trade as everyone else. It’s similar to Brexit where the UK leadership basically told all their allies to eat shit. It’s going to be a while until they get any good deals with the EU.

Nudding, 3 months ago

I would argue Trump is the epitome of what it means to be American.

Suspiciousbrowsing, 3 months ago

Of course your credibility is impacted. From a non-US citizen I thought it was ridiculous the first time he was elected and had headline after headline of ridiculous changes / events. The fact that he is now the preferred candidate AFTER what he did as president is already enough to tarnish America's credibility

Mr_Blott, 3 months ago

Yep, if half your population supports a racist moron, half your population are racist morons. It couldn’t really be any simpler

P1r4nha, 3 months ago

The thing is: It’s 30%, but leave it to the US to call themselves a democracy and completely defy the understanding of other democratic countries.

ObviouslyNotBanana, 3 months ago

The problem is he would represent the US. That would be his job, even if you personally do not feel represented. What he decides to do geopolitically is what the United States does. It doesn’t matter that half the people didn’t vote for him. He’s the spokesman. That’s how elections work.

Riccosuave, 3 months ago

It doesn’t matter that half the people didn’t vote for him.

It’s even worse than that. In 2020 only (66%) of the voting age population voted, which was the highest turnout since at least 1990. In most midterm elections the voter turnout is often less than (50%). So Donald Trump could conceivably win the presidency after only receiving votes from (1/3) of the voting age population, which is completely fucking insane.

ObviouslyNotBanana, 3 months ago

I know. Turnout is a problem in the US. My point still stands however. If you don’t vote, if you don’t vote for him, and he still wins he represents the United States. So vote, and don’t vote for him.

Riccosuave, 3 months ago

Oh I know. I agree with your points. I just personally find it disheartening to realize that Donald Trump might be allowed back in the White House due to less than 1% of the vote in a handful of states. The Electoral College has got to fucking go.

nova_ad_vitum, 3 months ago (edited 3 months ago)

What exactly do you think “credibility” is? It doesn’t mean everyone in that country agrees with the leader in power - that literally doesn’t matter.

Trumps erratic behaviour has torched a lot of US credibility in international relations, because it shows that whatever the US might say and do during a sane administration, they’re never more than 4 years away from potentially torching everything just for shits and giggles and descending into conducting international relations based on toddler tantrums. Trump’s torching of the Iran deal burned all the moderates in that country and now the the US has no credibility to negotiate another one (even if that were possible in the current situation) because all parties know the next guy might just reverse it out if spite. This is true even if you think the Iran deal was bad.