solrize,

Yeah, I couldn’t name one either (I’m from the US). The first name that popped into my mind was Jimi Hendrix but he wasn’t British. I guess Othello wasn’t British either, and may not have even been historical. I had heard of Idris Elba but didn’t realize that he was British. No idea about the Spice Girls.

There is a story (maybe apocryphal) that former US Vice President Dan Quayle (famous for malapropisms) once referred to Nelson Mandela as a “great African-American”, fwiw.

vivadanang,

I’m from the US. I wouldn’t have gotten many, but brits didn’t even get Samuel Coleridge-Taylor? Sad.

Luvs2Spuj,

It is sad, but this is also because of the generally low level of interest in classical music.

I will say that even within classical music, he does not get the correct level of recognition. Possibly (likely) due to racial issues of the time.

I have noticed more is being done to address this recently, which is a positive. Classical radio stations are featuring his music more and running features discussing his life and music. He was also featured in this year’s proms, which is probably most of the general publics only exposure to classical music.

vivadanang,

he was the mega-hit of his time. He toured the US repeatedly, meeting teddy roosevelt iirc. sad to see his legacy forgotten.

NeuronautML,

I’m no Briton and i just know a few bits here and there of British history, but isn’t the UK a traditionally mostly white country ?

I’m guessing half of say, Norwegians, also can’t name a black Norwegian historical figure either. I’m betting it’s even more than that and they’re the most immediate neighbors of the UK.

I’m not saying they’re not important to be remembered, or that there weren’t black people in Europe since the Roman times, here and there, but statistically speaking, black people were the overwhelming minority.

idiomaddict,

Norway didn’t colonize the West Indies or Africa (though they ran the Société du Madal for Portugal), thereby increasing the number of black Norwegians to include residents of entirely new majority black countries. There are a lot of black Brits.

Also, why Norway and not France (physically closer, comparable colonial history) or the Republic of Ireland (former colony, significant “shared history” during the colonial times, literally touching)?

ikidd,
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You would get the same results in France or Ireland. And if you want to get into figure in former British colonies, you’d be talking half the world. Name a famous black person from pre-revolutionary America that more than half of British would know.

idiomaddict,

I very much doubt you would get the same result from France, given the very different historical attitudes towards black people in the two countries, as well as a higher number of black people whose stories are taught (due to the difference in attitudes).

Name a famous black person from pre-revolutionary America that more than half of British would know.

Clearly, it’s impossible to do so, given the story we’re commenting under. I assume sally Hemings or (probably less likely) crispin attucks would be the figures they’d be most likely to name.

The more relevant aspect of the colonizing point was that Britain colonized Kenya (as an example) in the 1960s, not the US in the 1700s. They can’t name a single black Kenyan person from that time period?

NeuronautML,

Oh right yeah the colonial times. I guess when i was thinking about historical Britain i was thinking about celtic/roman/viking/medieval times. I tend to gloss over colonial times, i find that part of history not to be very appealing to me, but yeah, makes sense. Lots of black people because of the slave trade.

I picked east, i could’ve picked west, or south sure. No reason in particular.

Raxiel,

Andy Peters

Agent641,

Winston Churchill in silhouette

Lols,

that makes sense for a country where the few black folks that did live there were usually not exactly living it up

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