Lower taxes, subsidies, avoiding government prices hikes, public policy regarding police action - all sorts of things - this article explains it pretty well
This is like making fun of a fireman using a bucket of water that’s twice as large as your bucket to put out a house fire.
They pay twice as much in taxes. Vs the ludicrous cost of most basic citizen necessities in the United States .
Pay twice as much in taxes, you get affordable/basically free healthcare and adorable/basically free higher education(medical school is 2k a year in France). Affordable, reliable long-distance transportation/physical transportation infrastructure, a living and functional social security, but sure. Careful of those taxes you could pay that would cover all basic human necessities plus all major financial concerns until you croak.
As an example, instead of paying $3,000 in taxes per year, you could pay $6,000 in taxes per year, and you would be free to pursue any education you liked, including medical school, for $1000-$2000 per year instead of paying 30k per year just to learn core classes. Good thing you saved that 3k during tax season.
Thank you, this is my point: Other countries are doing healthcare and education better than the US, cheaper for everyone, with less bureaucracy and better results.
The US would save almost half a trillion a year by switching to Medicare for all.
It’s absolutely cheaper, unless you’re pretending that taxes are your only expense.
Want to get a be a doctor in the US? 50k to 60k. vs. public education, 1k-4k a year.
Just by going to school in the US, you are crippling yourself financially. Chronic illness? Financially crippling. Car crash injuries? Root canal?
French socialized medicine? A nominal fee for far better healthcare.
Saving a few thousand a year does not offset the tens of thousands of dollars US college students pay every semeste, nor devastating medical debt for anyone with common illnesses, nor millions list in crumbling transportation infrastructure, nor the paltry social security that seniors cannot live on, nor the complete lack of combat veteran support for medical care or housing. Three thousand a year does not cover a fraction of any of these costs in the for-profit US systems.
Ever maintain your car? What is more cost-effective? Changing the fluids and filters annually or buying a new car annually?
The savings are mathematical fact proved for decades by every country using socialized services.
Mercedes - luxury brand that you pay more for and receive lower quality parts and service. That’s the healthcare system you already pay for.
But we can pretend they are a good brand for your sake.
The “Mercedes” in this case costs as much as a Toyota Corolla beside everyone chips in.
Veterans could also get a “Mercedes”. Your children, your relatives, could each get the “Mercedes”.
Your main argument for paying more money is that you don’t want to help people. You’re paying many times more money for similar or worse services for no reason other than to deprive others.
just use healthcare dudes. It’s already present in both countries. no need to use analogies or metaphors. i ain’t gonna force either of you, but using these arguments isn’t going to get either of you anywhere productive.
Sounds a lot like “it’s not my problem until it actually affects me personally”.
I don’t know why people want to avoid paying as little taxes as possible when it basically improves the infrastructures/services in their own communities.
Sounds a lot like “it’s not my problem until it actually affects me personally”.
That is, fundamentally, the definition of “my problem”. If I’m not effected, it isn’t my problem, simply by nature of not effecting me. Not exactly sure what point you’re trying to make with it.
I don’t know why people want to avoid paying as little taxes as possible when it basically improves the infrastructures/services in their own communities
Because I have little interest in community services and infrastructure.
I mean, when you consider the US government spends more (almost twice as much) on healthcare per capita than most countries with free healthcare, you’re literally paying more taxes for it AND you have to shell out 50k$ when something bad happens.
Your only argument is “Taxes bad” even when we’re talking about a system that would actually cost less taxes, just because it has a side effect of also helping less fortunate people.
Nah what I’m saying is that most states’ taxation rates are pretty close to what you’d get in other developed countries.
Except pretty much every other developed country has cheap healthcare and education. The US is truly alone in this, and it shows, because the US also has some of the worst inequalities of the modern world.
Ah yes, not a good person even when it would be advantageous to you, sorry I forgot you’re actively trying to be an asshole lmao We had already established that, sorry.
June 4th, 2023, 300 Germans set fire to police barricades and attacked Leipzig police officers. The rioters were protesting jail sentences for people who attacked neo-nazis.
These are protests to breaches by authority against standing political, social and economic infrastructure rather than the infrastructure itself you are referring to; that infrastructure is as in place in France as it is in Germany.
People’s brand loyalty is just ridiculous. Every one of these multi-national corporations are profit driven and don’t give a flying fuck about; you, the environment or their workers, unless it impacts their bottom line.
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