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randomname01, in Insight: Europe cracks down after rise in 'direct action' climate protests

The police protecting the capital class? Say it ain’t so.

CookieJarObserver,

What? These assholes are upper class rich kids that endanger everyone with their behavior of gluing themselves to streets.

MajorSauce,

Oh, right, only poor people can be activists.

Murvel,

Yeah, well protesting daddy’s profits wearing the expensive clothes bought with daddy’s € leaves you with a bit of a foul aftertaste.

SpookySnek,

I know two of them here in Sweden, both of them are VERY much upper class

MorgoFett,

Yeah. Too bad they won’t “crack down” on polluting corporations and private jet fliers. :/

randomname01,

But those guys are following the law, so it’s cool and good. Don’t ask who writes the laws though.

FracturedEel,

Or what, you’ll arrest me?

naevaTheRat, in Pro-Palestine protesters chant ‘Gas the Jews’ outside Sydney Opera House
@naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Context: This happened 2 weeks ago. It was a small group of like 20 people in a protest of hundreds. The organiser of the protest condemned them, and asked the police for help removing them. The police declined to help.

The media keeps covering the like 20 antisemites and ignoring the hundreds of peaceful demonstrators, that the police tried to stop the demonstration going ahead at all, or that the Australian government is uncritically supporting the IDFs genocide.

NavalExplorer, in Macron slams two-term limit on French presidency as ‘damnable bullshit’

Misleading title. From the article itself:

The president was reportedly responding to a proposal by far-right leader Jordan Bardella, who was suggesting France switch to a single seven-year presidential term.

NOSin,

French here, he was speaking about his own terms, his entourage is defending it as “Ahah dw it was a late night joke !”

And this guy is so corrupt that it could be true, or not, it’s a toss coin at this point.

One thing’s for sure, it’s not gonna happen anytime soon, the French deffo wouldn’t let him.

wrath-sedan,
wrath-sedan avatar

I was about to say I don’t think it’s misleading but honestly on a re-read the article leaves a lot open for interpretation.

French President Emmanuel Macron slammed the two-term constitutional limit that means he must step down in 2027 as “damnable bullshit” in comments at a meeting with party leaders on Wednesday.

According to the far-left leader Jean-Luc Mélenchon, Macron said it was “damnable bullshit that one could not be re-elected”

The president was reportedly responding to a proposal by far-right leader Jordan Bardella, who was suggesting France switch to a single seven-year presidential term.

Like if you look at all of these together the article implies he’s talking about his own term limits, some unknown source presumably allied with Macron claims it was in response to Bardella, and the quote from Mélenchon could refer to either.

I couldn’t find any other context in English beyond this. I would assume he’s talking about his own limits and the responding to Bardella bit is him and his allies trying to give him political cover, but it’s genuinely unclear.

NavalExplorer,

Also, one should take into account the fact that Mélenchon was not there when this was said, at 3am. In French: lefigaro.fr/…/la-limitation-des-mandats-president…

BestBouclettes,

I guess even a broken clock is right twice a day ? That’s probably the only thing I can agree with this far right fuck Bardella. We should have a single term 7 years term to avoid what we have lived with Macron : not much on the first half of the first term, campaigning for the second term after that and now an absolute madness of authoritarianism, force pushed unpopular and unnecessary reforms and the further destruction of the very fabric of this country, because he’s got nothing to loose anymore. That or a new republic that would give less power to a single person, like a parliamentary system.

jordanlund, in Donald Trump indictment: Ex-president charged with bid to overturn 2020 election

This seemed to be popular information when I posted it (ahem) “elsewhere”. Thought it might be welcome to have here.

If you’re trying to keep track of where we’re at in the Trump prosecutions:

Updated 8/1/2023

Washington, D.C. - 4 felonies, January 6th Election Interference
Investigation
Indictment <- You Are Here
Arrest
Trial
Conviction
Sentencing

Georgia - Election Interference
Investigation <- You Are Here
2 new grand juries impaneled 7/11/2023.
Indictment - July 11th to September 1st.
(Grand Jury work expected July 31 to Aug. 18)
Arrest
Trial
Conviction
Sentencing

New York State - 34 felonies, Stormy Daniels Payoff
Investigation
Indictment
Arrest <- You Are Here
Trial - March 25th, 2024
Conviction
Sentencing

Florida - 40 felonies, Federal documents charges
Investigation
Indictment
Original indictment was for 37 felonies.
3 new felonies were added on July 27, 2023.
Arrest <- You Are Here
Trial - May 20, 2024
Conviction
Sentencing

Other grand juries, such as for the documents at Bedminster, have not been announced.

The E. Jean Carroll trial for sexual assault and defamation where Trump was found liable and ordered to pay $5 million before immediately defaming her again resulting in a demand for $10 million is not listed as it’s a civil case and not a crimimal one.

McrRed,

Thank you. You’re doing the good lord’s work @jordan

Brunbrun6766, in Pro-Palestine protesters chant ‘Gas the Jews’ outside Sydney Opera House
@Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world avatar

Idiots, you can support Palestinian civilians and not say stupid shit like this.

curiousaur,

They’re outing themselves.

pimento64,

Too bad a big chunk of the self-professed supporters don’t actually give a shit about Palestinian civilians at all, they’re just paying lip service because they want an excuse to hate on Jews.

CJOtheReal,

Don’t like all “pro Palestinia” people do exactly that? If you support the civilians there you don’t run around with a flag that is used by the “government” they have, wich literally started this entire shitshow again and now use the civilians as meat shields…

NOT_RICK,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

The Palestinian flag predates Hamas by decades. Would you condemn the Irish Tricolor just because the IRA happened to fly it as well?

CJOtheReal,

The swastika predates the Nazis by several Hundreds of years…

And no, The IRA where never the government or part of it. Hamas was elected with 44% in a somewhat democratic election, before they took power (more than NSDAP, Hitlers party, had during democratic elections)

MonkCanatella,

but… the nazis… lmao u got godwinned.

CJOtheReal,

The comparison is pretty close here… Waiting to kill all jews is kinda what both want/ed

NOT_RICK,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, and I would argue the Nazis don’t own the swastika. I’m not going to tell Buddhist and Hindu temples to take down their symbol because someone misappropriated it. Just like the IRA, Hamas has a militant wing, the Al-Qassam Brigades, and a political wing that I’ll make a rough comparison to Sinn Fein which has absolutely been a part of Northern and the Republic of Ireland government.

Also, that election that ended up with Hamas in power was like 18 years ago which also happens to be the median age in Gaza. The majority of people in Gaza have never voted for Hamas.

CJOtheReal,

The majority of people in nazi Germany didn’t vote for Hitler either, yet he was in power, yet the allies flattened the whole country, yet the swastika is banned in most countries.

There is no reason to wave a Palestinia flag at all. Just use signs Calling for restraint and help for the civilians.

As long as Palestinia is a thing, Hamas is as well, and their proclaimed goal is to kill all jews in Israel (or rather all citizens of Israel in general) wich makes the just as bad as the Nazi, although less capable.

sugar_in_your_tea,

There is no reason to wave a Palestinia flag at all. Just use signs Calling for restraint and help for the civilians.

No, the point in waving a Palestinian flag is to support the recognition of an independent Palestinian state. You can support that without supporting the terrorists that appropriated it.

Personally, I’d like to show up with both an Israeli and Palestinian flag, but I’m worried I’d just be jumped by the extremists on either side. I think a two-state solution must be the direction we go, not just “restraint and help for civilians.” Both Israel and Palestine must be independent, but getting there is an incredibly difficult thing that may not be possible without serious concessions from both sides, which isn’t likely to happen with the current leadership on both sides.

CJOtheReal,

Nah man, a two sate solution is impossible by now. And its not just the leadership.

sugar_in_your_tea,

I think it is possible. Fatah seem willing to play ball, so the ball is largely in Israel’s court now. But if Israel keeps responding to Palestinian extremism by killing regular citizens, it’s not going to happen. This war has drastically delayed any potential for a two state solution, so it could be decades before either side is willing to come to the table again.

CJOtheReal,

What else should they do? Conduct suicide missions into Gaza to get the terrorists “without killing civilians” (there would still be many casualtys among civilians, especially because Hamas uses them as shield)

Just let the terrorists do whatever they want?

sugar_in_your_tea,

Idk, I’m not a general. Maybe their strategy is their best option.

But that’s irrelevant. What matters is that people on the ground are dying and they blame Israel. Whatever meager trust that may have existed is absolutely gone. So a two state solution isn’t going to work because people in Gaza won’t want to come to the table because they won’t trust Israel.

CJOtheReal,

100% agreement. But, the people of Israel don’t want to sit to a table anymore either, at least right now.

sugar_in_your_tea,

Sure. They have an urgency to eliminate Hamas, and they’re unlikely to agree to any kind of agreement that doesn’t involve Hamas leadership being removed, and I doubt the people of Gaza have any kind of ability or will to deliver them to the Israeli military.

CJOtheReal,

Yes. That’s the problem, and people in the west being antisemitic and supporting the terrorists doesn’t make it better for anyone. It just makes Israel not listen to the west anymore, if it was up to the Israeli military there wouldn’t be a Gaza anymore, USA UK and EU are literally the only thing holding back their military from just making a Glass Desert. The situation is so Tense that its basically not solvable with words. And using weapons will result in a gigantic humanitarian Desaster, worse than its already.

Jakeroxs,

You’re still saying anyone who supports Palestine is antisemitic

CJOtheReal,

Yes. And hates gays.

Jakeroxs,

You’re an idiot

CJOtheReal,
NOT_RICK,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

As long as Palestinia is a thing, Hamas is as well

The fact that both the flag and the movement for Palestinian statehood predate Hamas significantly is evidence your claim holds little water.

CJOtheReal,

We will see.

spaghettiwestern, (edited ) in Andrew Tate: Chats in 'War Room' suggest dozens of women groomed

Previous post removed because it was from the Daily Beast. This is pretty much identical information from the BBC.

Tate says the War Room - which costs $8,000 (£6,300) a year to join - is a network of powerful men and those who want to learn from them.

Members are instructed by some of the War Room leadership - known as “generals” - to romantically seduce, emotionally manipulate and socially isolate women before luring them into performing on webcams - often taking all or most of the money they make.

[The] War Room teaches members through its so-called “PhD” course - the initials stand for “Pimpin’ Hoes Degree” - how to groom women into sex work.

Excerpts from the chats:

After that it becomes a series of gradual steps to remove her entire support structure from her life.

“Then we ‘punish’ her for a transgression—real or imagined—by having her get our name tattooed on her, leaving her family’s home/apartment/town/country, WebCamming/stripping/walking the track for us, getting us girls, escalate, escalate, escalate.”

This level of evil boggles the mind.

mayo,

Wow these guys are screwed, that’s textbook trafficking. I hope the laws are up to par in wherever they are.

520,

The Romanian prosecutors have not been fucking around

mayo,

Excellent :)

Of all the things people do for whatever reason human trafficking really irks me. It’s like wholesale destroying of lives.

spaghettiwestern,

Don’t know about the laws in Romania, but the prison conditions are not pleasant.

The physical environment of these [Romanian prison] facilities is marked by poor cell conditions, overcrowding, poor hygiene and sanitation, and inadequate food and health care.

The continuing use of restraints such as handcuffs and leg irons for very long periods of time as a form of punishment is a violation of international standards for the treatment of prisoners. The report describes abuse by guards and corruption rife in Romanian prisons.

davepleasebehave,

that’s one way to escape the matrix

rastilin,

There's irony in the fact that Tate went to Romania specifically to evade international standards and laws.

Zrybew, in Macron slams two-term limit on French presidency as ‘damnable bullshit’

Ok Putin

WheeGeetheCat, in UPS strike could be costliest in US in a century, study says
@WheeGeetheCat@sh.itjust.works avatar

union officials say UPS needs to sweeten its offer for workers who risked their lives during the pandemic to help the company generate outsized profits.

sounds like the union has a good point. No idea why shareholders and CEOs feel entitled to that money. They need to be reminded who does the real work.

Szymon, in Pro-Palestine protesters chant ‘Gas the Jews’ outside Sydney Opera House

Please don’t give the idiots a soap box. Supporting Palestinian right to life and territory doesn’t mean you support the destruction of Jews or Israel.

Believe it or not, people can come together in peace when old racist rich fucks that want power, land, and money stay out of it.

downpunxx,
downpunxx avatar

All Evidence For the Last 70 Years from the PLO to, Fatah, Hezbollah, PIJ, and Hamas, to the contrary, naturally, or course

Swarming,
@Swarming@sh.itjust.works avatar

The PLO and Fatah both recognise the state of Israel and its right to exist, have given up armed struggle, and signed the Oslo Accords with Israel, accepting a peaceful political pathway to a two state solution.

Swarming,
@Swarming@sh.itjust.works avatar

I don’t think burying this and pretending it didn’t happen is helpful when Jews around the world are telling us right now that they are terrified and under attack

CJOtheReal,

Yeah, like there was incidents of pro Palestinia people drawing stars of David on the doors of jews or throwing molotovs into Synagogues…

captainlezbian,

Yeah it is important for us to also condemn antisemitism and make very clear that the Jewish people and the Israeli government are not the same.

DarkGamer,
DarkGamer avatar

Supporting Palestinian right to life and territory doesn’t mean you support the destruction of Jews or Israel.

True, but these protesters and Hamas clearly support that. Hamas was elected as the government of Gaza last time they had an election and have yet to be deposed. Palestinians who support the destruction of Jews and Israel run Gaza.

Szymon,

Over 50% of the population of Gaza wasn’t born when Hamas was elected. They’ve never had a choice on their leadership, and it’s a shame they didn’t take any opportunities to change the leadership before this.

sugar_in_your_tea,

You can support Palestine and oppose Hamas at the same time. You don’t even need to support Fatah either.

DarkGamer,
DarkGamer avatar

Sure, but unfortunately at present in Gaza, they are the same entity. Hamas represents Palestine there. One cannot retaliate against Hamas without harming Palestinians; there's significant overlap in that Venn diagram. It's like saying one supports Russia but not Putin.

The big difference for me regarding the factions here is that although asymmetrical, one side of this conflict wants genocide and the other wants safety. Although Palestine is the underdog here and is punching up rather than punching down, I cannot see them as the good guys like I might otherwise. They are a hostile belligerent force that attacks civilians regularly and refuses to concede defeat despite having lost every war they stated with Israel since 1948. At this rate they will soon be left with nothing because they will not accept the realpolitik of their situation and their leaders historically prefer violence to viable concessions. This unwillingness to accept the inevitable consequences of their failed hostile actions will not end well for them.

sugar_in_your_tea,

Very elegantly put. Unfortunately, eliminating Hamas could be like trying to eliminate the Taliban from Afghanistan, where it just ends up being a hydra situation.

BraveSirZaphod,
BraveSirZaphod avatar

I think it does need to be acknowledged that there is a faction of people that absolutely do support the destruction of Israel and Jews. Hamas was elected, it should be remembered.

That absolutely does not mean that support for Palestinian statehood requires you to be opposed to Israel's existence, but advocates for peace should be very clear that this kind of rhetoric is absolutely not tolerated. And conversely, advocates for Israel must absolutely reject the people that would support the complete removal of Palestinians from Gaza and the West Bank.

There are extremists on all sides, and genocidal rhetoric must not be tolerated, wherever it comes from.

AdmiralShat, in Andrew Tate: Chats in 'War Room' suggest dozens of women groomed

I keep trying to tell people that Tate isn’t just a douchebag alpha male, he’s a psychopath.

sugar_in_your_tea,

Yeah, I can’t watch more than 30 seconds of any of his content, anything more and I lose all faith in humanity. That people actually like to listen to this guy just blows my mind.

mindbleach,

They’re the same picture.

RadicalCandour, in Macron slams two-term limit on French presidency as ‘damnable bullshit’

Wtf happened to this guy? Wasn’t he reasonably moderate? Wasn’t he supposed to be the Biden/Trudeau of France? Can someone explain why he’s dancing this dance?

Ziggurat,

Wasn’t he supposed to be the Biden/Trudeau of France? Can someone explain why he’s dancing this dance?

He is a liberal applying a liberal policy. Nothing moderate in “liberal” policies but good old right-wing policy with a drop of social varnish to get voters

cheer,

The lesser of two evils implies they’re both still evil

Chariotwheel,

Yeah, first term he was shiny, second term he was just less shit that Le Pen.

sci,

Power corrupts

gaael,

Kinda moderate in pre-election speaches, but has been pushing a liberal agenda backed by police brutality since day one.

Also been getting high on feeling “the big man” since the beginning, I remember him being a jerk to a middle school student who called him “Manu” as a joke, he went all “that’s mister president for you, you can call me Manu once you’ve accomplished something with your life”.

bouh,

To put it quickly, liberalism degenerate into fascism when facing difficulties.

In fact, any system will degenerate into fascism when facing a wall because fascism is the core of the state.

Macron is tired of fighting to push liberalism so hard, but he will rather ally and even become fascist than allying with the left. Because the left is radically anti-liberal while the right is merely fascist, but that’s not anti-liberal so it’s fine.

Deceptichum,
Deceptichum avatar

He was never a good guy, he’s a “centrist”/liberal.

Snoopy,

Sorry for my rusty english :

It's really worrying...the two terms election is here to stop any power abuse and they complain...Do they want to start a dictatorship ?
Well, Macron isn't moderate. In fact, he belong to an extremist movement too, but as we call it "center", he sound righteous, reasonable between left and right. Imho, Biden/Trudeau/Macron aren't different : they share the same view on economics system.

Currently, he is destroying our social system without listening its people : teachers, doctors, hospital, scientifics...are underpaid (same for the previous president). He asked us to work longer whereas at 60, you rapidly start declining and we presented other and better solution. He didn't listen and imposed the law with 49.3 hence one of the longest strike in France.

He forced poor people to work 3 days per week to get a small fee that mean poor people will be forced to accept any kind of degrading bullshit job to live. Rich people aren't taxed and get some fund for their projet...Furthermore he doing nothing toward the environnement except building new nuclear plant which is far from enough and risky because nuclear plant rely on water to cool down. And France will become a desertic area. We are unable to reduce our carbon footprint around the world, so it's clear we will reach the worst scenario. We need both : renewable and nuclear.

So, here is the painting.

Mic_Check_One_Two, in Typo sends millions of US military emails to Russian ally Mali

That’s what we in the cybersec business call an “oopsie daisy I made a little fucky-wucky”.

For real though, this isn’t a problem yet. The TL;DR is that Mali has a top-level domain “.ml”. Just like “.co.uk” for the UK. And the military uses the domain “.mil”. So lots of emails accidentally get sent to “[Military email]@[Military email server].ml” instead of sending to .mil.

So a bad actor could simply set up an e-mail server with .ml domains that mirror the military’s .mil ones, and start collecting all of those mis-addressed emails.

So why isn’t it an issue yet? Because we had a contract with Mali to manage their domain. They literally signed administrative rights for the .ml domain over. So the US was able to basically set up their own .ml mirrored sites, to capture all of those mis-addressed emails. They have captured thousands throughout the years, because military members keep misaddressing their emails. Supposedly containing all kinds of sensitive data. Everything from medical records to troop movements and equipment inspection reports.

But that contract ends this week, so Mali could 100% start registering their own domains when that contract expires and domain registrations begin expiring.

overzeetop,
@overzeetop@lemmy.world avatar

One solution to this would be to set the .mil mail servers to either correct or bounce all .ml addressed mail, no? It makes emailing legitimate .ml addresses more difficult, but requiring a second, dedicated gateway or mailserver for .ml would be at most inconvenient.

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  • MomoTimeToDie,

    which I would hope is trivial for them to do without requiring the job to be bid on…

    As someone with moderate experience working for the federal government, I wish I had your hopes

    AngryAnusHornets,

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  • MomoTimeToDie,

    Glad you can agree you’re a delusional piece of shit

    goat,

    Hey now, don’t be a dick.

    fist_of_fartitude, in Johnson & Johnson sues researchers who linked talc to cancer
    @fist_of_fartitude@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Hopefully the judge doesn’t just toss the suit, but sanctions J&J for this. Fuck everything about this suit.

    rockSlayer, in Insight: Europe cracks down after rise in 'direct action' climate protests

    Bourgeois democracy showing it’s face. Anything that challenges their hegemonic power, including climate action against oil companies, will be labeled as eco-terrorists. When that happens, it will either successfully silence the people trying to prevent climate chaos or lead to more extreme action.

    paysrenttobirds,

    I agree, but you can leave out the bourgeois democracy part.

    rockSlayer,

    Why? The people in power within our capitalist society are not from the working class. That makes them part of the capitalist class. That means that they will serve their class interests rather than the needs of the working class. That’s the literal definition of bourgeois democracy.

    goat,

    What country are you using here?

    rockSlayer,

    Every country within the Global North, and most countries in the Global South.

    goat,

    So every country except a few in the Global North serves class interests rather than the working class? What country in the Global South is serving the working class?

    rockSlayer,

    No, every single country in the Global North is a bourgeois democracy. Socdem governments in Europe are still bourgeois democracies. The countries that are actually benefiting the working class include Vietnam and Cuba, where the QoL is very impressive for the Global South. I already know what your reaction will be, so just know I’m only interested in continuing this angle of discussion if you respond in good faith.

    goat,

    Both of these countries are lacking in freedom. Liberties, political rights, identity, diversity, religious belief, freedom of the press and democracy

    How are they freer than the first world if they struggle with this?

    rockSlayer,

    I’ll get to those declarations in a little bit. Instead let’s talk about their quality of life. They have a higher life expectancy, virtually no homelessness, healthcare is a right, people are more free to persue passions like healthcare, science, and mathematics, among several other similarities. Cuba in particular has a longer life expectancy, higher literacy rates, better healthcare outcomes, and lower infant mortality when compared to the US. The minimum wage in Cuba is equivalent to USD$17.50/hr, and the median wage is USD$33/hr. Cuba and Vietnam outperform comparable countries in most socioeconomic indicators. That is what I mean by proletarian democracy, even if I’d call the economies in those countries “state capitalism”. There’s a youtuber from Vietnam called Luna oi! that discusses what it’s actually like to live in Vietnam as a citizen, she provides valuable insight into the political life of citizens.

    goat,

    Do you have sources for these claims?

    rockSlayer,
    • "Cuba has historically—both before and especially during communist rule—performed better than other countries in the region on several socioeconomic indicators, such as literacy, infant mortality and life expectancy. Cuba has a universal health care system which provides free medical treatment to all Cuban citizens."
    • World Bank data on Vietnam
    goat,

    Thank you!

    Though your sources on Cuba’s infant morality and life expectancy both point out that even before communism, Cuba was already ahead of the US.

    My main worries are the lack of freedoms that first world nations have. Mind you, I personally don’t consider the US a First-World Nation.

    thecrotch,

    The term first world literally means “the US and it’s allies”, so it doesn’t really matter if you consider it one. Watch, I can say stupid shit too

    “I personally don’t consider the US part of the western hemisphere”

    goat,

    The modern variation of First World is countries with a high standard of living, often including high literacy rates, free enterprise, common law, economic stability, democracy and healthcare.

    If you are lower class in the US, you don’t have as much access to these living standards. That’s why the US isn’t always included in the present definitions. Is it technically first-world? Yes, especially if you’re rich and can afford healthcare. If you’re not, then no, it isn’t.

    I hope this has been enlightening for you.

    thecrotch,

    The US is first world, and always will be, because first world literally means “the US and it’s allies”. It has nothing to do with economic opportunity or the lack thereof.

    I hope you actually read it this time.

    Corkyskog,

    Median wage is $33/hr

    Isn’t that super close to the US median wage? It was way higher than I had presumed, last I checked.

    rockSlayer,

    No, it’s close to the mean wage that includes data for billionaires. The median wage in the US is roughly $54000 or $25.96/hr. As we all know, the federal minimum wage is still $7.25/hr as set in 2009. This is the longest time in US history since the minimum wage was changed.

    DavyJones,
    @DavyJones@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Hemispheres

    rockSlayer,

    No, the Global North and Global South are not strictly defined by hemisphere, though that is how the names came about. They are useful terms to describe the relationship of power imbalance through imperialism. The Global North includes the US, Canada, Australia, and Western Europe. The Global South includes countries in Africa, Latin America, South America, and Eastern Europe.

    goat,

    Still more free than most of the world, unfortunately.

    LeadSoldier,

    You are born free. Most of the world takes less of your freedoms than the US and Europe. The United States of America has more prisoners per capita than pretty much anybody else. You have been taught that you are the most free just like everybody else is taught by their country.

    goat,

    Don’t be so presumptuous, I’m not from the US.

    nieceandtows, in Italian uproar over judge's 10-second groping rule

    That is such an idiotic take. Truly unbelievable a court would actually say something like this and acquit somebody. The judge should be open to standing in the public square and letting anybody grope him, as long as it is under 10 seconds.

    ivanafterall,
    ivanafterall avatar

    Don't give him what he wants.

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