moira, to MountainBiking
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I'm calling this a preview but it's a pretty solid version of MEGAMAP 1.2, using the 1.1 rev 4 dataset, which is the latest.

Anybody wants to look at it, it's on my maps Github, click on PREVIEW MEGAMAP:

https://github.com/solarbirdy/NorthshoreBikeMap/

moira, to Seattle
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Okay so with no show stoppers appearing, I've dropped Greater Northshore BIke Map 1.2 - Late May 2024, which shows bike infrastructure and adds preferred non-infrastructure routes between the Seattle and the new Eastside 2 Line Bike Connector maps.

You can find it here:

https://github.com/solarbirdy/NorthshoreBikeMap

It covers Shoreline, Lake Forest Park, Kenmore, Bothell, Woodinville, Juanita, parts of north Redmond that the 2 Line leaves out, and a decent chunk of unincorporated NE King County.

Next up will be a revision of the MEGAMAP, a map that pastes together the Greater Northshore map and the two others into one big poster-sized beast.

#BikeMap #Seattle #Shoreline #LakeForestPark #Kenmore #Bothell #Woodinville #Juanita #Redmond #BikeTooter #Maps

moira,
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After the MEGAMAP update, there probably really will be a big break, since infrastructure additions don't show up overnight. But I'm always looking for new data, so please give it to me if you have some!

moira, to cycling
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RELEASE CANDIDATE TIME

Revision 1.1, Dataset 1.1 rev 4, Greater Northshore Bike Connector Map.

This version adds heatmap-sourced non-bike-infrastructure routes that people use anyway as a new class, in Seattle-style green. Think of them as demand paths.

I think they're worth adding because they tell people: yes, people use these fragments of infrastructure; this is how they connect together. This is where people actually go.

Also more dirt trails, a little more road-level infrastructure - minor stuff - and an improved legend.

The attached is at reduced resolution because that's what Mastodon does. But it's okay.

Feedback desired.

moira,
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tagging @sip and @MHowell as previous contributors (naturally still credited)

moira, to MountainBiking
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dataset 1.0 vs. 1.1. The demand paths make a difference, particularly in explaining how the full infrastructure areas fit together.

moira, to cycling
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I fucked up the assembly order lol but it still looks okay

moira, to cycling
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one note on the map that I did think about: the lowest-grade red and green lines are distinguishable in black and white. the red lines use dashes, the green are dots with narrower spacing between.

the legend in this version didn’t make that super clear but I’ve revised the source to fix that.

https://mastodon.murkworks.net/@moira/112464458735309899

moira,
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Also I did some test prints over the weekend, and the green lines print fine. Even at lowered resolution (to fit on 11x17" paper for example) they're distinct from red dash sharerow markers.

moira, (edited ) to cycling
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Okay! New map! The attachment is the first representation of dataset 1.1, using a lot of dotted green lines (as per the Seattle map legend) to show non-bike-signed routes commonly used by people biking.

(It's not full resolution because Mastodon shrinks it.)

It also includes a couple of actual bike-supporting routes I missed in dataset 1.0, and a lot more dirt/loose gravel trails, particularly in unincorporated King County and on the northern Eastside. But there's bits of adds everywhere.

The dotted green is experimental. Feedback is definitely requested.

Full resolution is at Github, select the map labelled "EXPERIMENTAL":

https://github.com/solarbirdy/NorthshoreBikeMap/

moira,
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One thing working with the version 1.1 dataset is telling me is that if there are some pretty obvious-seeming ways that an un-notated map would tell you to go... but the heat data says nobody does that.

And that's the value of including these green dashed lines, because ... that lack of heat data says there's a reason not go do there.

moira,
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Like Redmond-Woodinville road. There's lots of heat on it until suddenly there really isn't.

But there are on two side roads.

moira, to MountainBiking
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Has anyone here used the Avondale Road barely-marked "bike lanes" from around the Power Line Trail up to NE 132nd? Because on Google Maps they lack things like "this is a bike lane" markers except at the very, very end. Right now I've marked them as dual sharerows because of how bad they look to me. But are they secretly okay in person?

bls,
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@moira I wouldn't ride a bike on Avondale unless I was feeling suicidal.

moira,
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@bls Yeah, it looks scary as fuck. That's why I'm just refusing to mark it as double-bike-lane even though Redmond absolutely does.

I'm sticking with "double sharerow" marking for now, because paint stripe or not, you're sharing the row. :/

moira, (edited ) to cycling
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Thinking of adapting Seattle map's "faint green dashes" for "unmarked but regularly used by bicycle riders." It'll mostly be useful in unincorporated King County areas of the map.

I've used it here on Bear Creek, NE 132nd, NE 133rd, as a test.

Basically I want them to be much less visible, but still findable, much like the Seattle map does. And continuing their legend on this strikes me as better than making up something else completely different.

Thoughts?

moira, to cycling
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anyway the big reason i went to woodinville today was to take the northshore map to woodinville bike

and they were the first people to have more data for me, though they mostly told me how to find it rather than giving it to me. it's all up in Hollywood Hills and a lot of it is off-road, so not really destination focused. But some of it, apparently, is paved and connected to other stuff, so of some interest.

moira, to cycling
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good, even with the glue seams from assembling four tiled sheets, it folds pretty well into a reasonable size (4 3/8 by 6 1/2 inches / 11 by 27 cm)

I mean, not that anyone’s going to use it that way, but it’s nice to know it works.

The folded up map, at its smallest size

moira, to cycling
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was actually just going to mention that people are actually looking at the maps project but instead i'm having a difficult time not just saying "nice"

moira, to Seattle
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Okay so not long after posting this:

https://mastodon.murkworks.net/@moira/112424660059816859

I got a question asking "why are the Seattle lines green" and the answer is "because that's the colour set they use on their map" but the real answer is "I need to include enough of their legend for it to make sense."

So now I have.

If you downloaded it before around 8:40pm Saturday May 11, you might grab the new copy if you want the Seattle legend included too.

moira,
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moira, to MountainBiking
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another bike shop (the one in lake forest park town centre) got the word of the
maps

like everybody else they’re really frustrated that there’s been no king county map in over a decade so they’re super into it

anybody know if there’s a bike shop in juanita? they could use this too. pretty sure there’s one in woodinville also, should find that.

moira, (edited ) to random
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Well I didn't get any corrections (but found a small one of my own) so the re-implementation of the Greater Northshore Connector Bike Map - now with slightly more map height, contrast, and more easily seen lines - has dropped. Enjoy!

Go to:

https://github.com/solarbirdy/NorthshoreBikeMap/

and pick the Greater Northshore map.

Or if you don't mind .jpg and a little chopped off the bottom I guess you could just grab the preview here, it's at full resolution, just compressed a little and some of the bottom removed to fit.

#BikeTooter #BikeMap #seattle #northshore #shoreline #lakeforestpark #kenmore #bothell #woodinville #juanita

moira,
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@jeromechoo Oh they don't, the jpg isn't even the working media. But they tell me about additional routes and so on.

(Although one person did clip part of the jpg and make notes to show me what they meant and that was great.)

moira,
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@jeromechoo It's still contributions, just it has to go through me. Which it would anyway since it's my project, so that's fair.

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