@Alon That, too. But even if they bothered "Christian Zionists" as well, it would still be anti-Semitic. The Spanish Inquisition burned non-Jewish heretics, but even so it was anti-Semitic.
@bradweed@Alon The ostracizers' definition of "Zionist" is anyone who supports the continued existence of the State of Israel, including those who support a 2-state solution. This is the meaning of "From the River to the Sea" along with more explicit slogans like “We don’t want no two-state, we want ’48” & “There is only one solution, intifada revolution.”
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Iran’s Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei tells Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh, “The divine promise to eliminate the Zionist entity will be fulfilled and we will see the day when Palestine will rise from the river to the sea.”
TIL the Israeli ambassador showed up at Putin's sham election victory celebration two months ago. For shame. No wonder Ukraine and Poland aren't bothering to vote with Israel at the UN.
On the one hand, Hamas turns out to have offered to deliver dead bodies to Israel in lieu of living hostages, and that's why Israel is restarting talks but not accepting its offer.
On the other hand, in Barak Ravid's reporting at least, the biggest concerns that Israeli negotiators have are not about the dead hostages but about Hamas's demand for a stage-two withdrawal from Gaza.
@Alon Either Bibi's speeches & leaks have blown up a genuine opportunity for cease-fire & hostage return, or Hamas had no intention of ever agreeing to the cease-fire terms & Bibi's speeches & leaks have helped Hamas shift the blame onto Israel. I really don't know which it is, but either way Bibi once again is a disaster for Israel.
Incredible. Read the text of the ceasefire agreement.
The ceasefire mandated release of ALL Israeli hostages, a permanent & indefinite ceasefire—meaning Hamas could never offensively take up arms against Israel again—and Qatar, Egypt, USA, & the UN serving as Guarantors.
Are there good histories of the origin of the social democrat/green split? Because these days those parties are extremely similar throughout Europe (and in the Netherlands they just merged), and generally they prefer to govern with each other when possible.
@Alon The Greens did not originate as a split from social democrats. They saw themselves sometimes as to the left of the social democrats, sometimes as transcending left-right divisions. The Green founders came more often from ultra-left sects than from social democrats.
@Alon Your question is really why did the Greens succeed in cutting into the Social Democrats' voting base.
That's part of the bigger question of SDs' loss of working class votes and shift to a base of the educated middle class. The Greens cut into the new base, not the old base, and in many ways their platform fits their constituency better than the SDs'.
You could even argue that the rise of the Greens has benefited SDs by pushing them back toward their labor base (see Australia).
@Transportist@Alon Nimby seems to be a common trait of Green parties world-wide. Australian Greens have both left-sectarian and woodsy-middle-class factions. Canadians & French tend more toward latter (probably because sectarians drawn more to NDP & Insoumise), US Greens more ultra-left.
@Alon@bdsint They may also have had illusions about what the campus demonstrations were going to accomplish, which have now been exploded.
And who knows what threats or promises have been made by Egypt.
if you want to make a case that antisemitism plays an unusual role in the US discourse surrounding Israel, your best point of reference is Yemen and US support of Saudi Arabia’s conflict there, which conflict (whomever you blame for it) did lead to mass famine and death, but not to mass protest on US campuses.
Free speech is alive and well on American campuses as students are welcome to protest injustice as long as their slogans are perfectly calibrated to offend noone and can withstand the scrutiny of bad-faith actors and no individual among them is a hothead who's said some offensive shit either during the protest or previously on social media. #gazaprotests#censorship#acab
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Imagine defenders of southern culture camped out on the college green, splitting their time between scholarly rebuttals of the history curriculum's denigration of Robert E. Lee and John C. Calhoun & loudly amplified chants of pro-Confederate slogans. Occasionally participants yell epithets at Black students walking by, some overtly racist & some referring to DEI.
Is that an exercise of free speech that university administrations should tolerate?
“To even admit you are acting out of a perception of potential liability is thought in some circles to create a risk of liability. But this thinking in some cases creates enormous risk because the people who are articulating risk only think along one line of vulnerability, the one they understand—or because their logic is easily bent towards a pre-determined conclusion by ideologues prepared to manipulate it.” #TimothyBurkehttps://timothyburke.substack.com/p/academia-on-the-inside
@interfluidity@djc I was talking about slogans like "Intifada revolution," "burn Tel Aviv to the ground," "Qassam brigades you make us proud" along with the Zionist-free zone and celebration of Oct 7.
And it's harassment, not speech, when they yell these slogans (or even things that are in bounds as subjects of discussion, like genocide) at Jewish students walking to class.
@interfluidity@ikentcpel@Alon@djc It's not "some fool," it's a leader of the group. And he remains as leader after a vague semi-apology.
Imagine a group of defenders of southern culture camped out on the college green, devoting the vast majority of their time to scholarly rebuttals of the curriculum's denigration of Robert E. Lee and John C. Calhoun, and only occasionally yelling racist epithets at Black students walking by.
@interfluidity@Alon@ikentcpel@djc "Antizionist" has a multitude of meanings from the Satmar rebbes to Sinwar & Khameini. The term is often used to intentionally blur distinctions.
I believe the number of American Jews who, like many SJP leaders, supported the Oct 7 massacres and want them to be repeated, is very small.
The number who have deluded themselves about what Hamas & SJP stand for is much larger, and yes Bibi deserves a lot of the blame for that.