Meowoem

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Who knew world peace would be so easy? (sh.itjust.works)

Genocidal AI: ChatGPT-powered war simulator drops two nukes on Russia, China for world peace OpenAI, Anthropic and several other AI chatbots were used in a war simulator, and were tasked to find a solution to aid world peace. Almost all of them suggested actions that led to sudden escalations, and even nuclear warfare....

Meowoem,

You’re confusing a few things, firstly you mean current gen large language models not AI, ai is often used to evolve novel strategies from scratch without any human training data - chess ai don’t have to study human games for example, in fact grand master chess players have been studying what the ai learned and discovered things that humans hadn’t realised even after a thousand years of the games popularity.

Secondly that’s not really how LLMs work either, they’re much more mathematically complex and very much create their own ideas on a similar process we do of assembling concepts then structure then word choice.

It’s fine you not understanding how this works but the problem is that journalists don’t either even when they’re writing about it - this puts us in a situation where they’re making childishly naive but of course clickbait titles claiming there’s some relevance to the output when the tool is used very wrong so you rightly point out it’s stupid and that’s not how llms work but then we get this overstep where it’s being refuted with an equal amount of magical thinking and false conclusions made.

An LLM can make novelty and originality but it can’t create with intent, it doesn’t use reason or structure - there are AI that do these things to limited degrees and of course the NSA one that they spent all that money on and no one is allowed to talk about. Using chat GPT play a silly fantasy won’t tell us anything about how they’ll think so this article is entirely worthless

Meowoem,

People need to realise that LLMs are not just Markov chains, the math is far more complex than just guessing which word comes next - they have structure where concepts come before word choice, this is why they can very clearly be seen making novel structures such as code.

Meowoem,

Because it is a movie, they’re purposely using it in a way it wasn’t intended to work - try it yourself and see how often it couches replies until you convince it to pretend to be a general or to play the part of a character.

They’ve asked it to generate fiction, it’s given them fiction and now they’re click baiting a pointless story with a dumb headline.

Meowoem,

There is nothing in the article that refutes this, what are you talking about? They explain how they track them, that they get too much radiation and that genetic study shows they have genes to resist damage from this radiation - exactly what would be expected with evolution and of course the process by which this happens is that the non cancer resistant wolves got cancer and died young, it’s not even slightly controversial (unless you’re a creationist)

Meowoem,

It’s fair in a way though, if someone has invested time and effort into developing a workflow using a tool then the hammer company come and say 'we’re talking away the solid handle and replacing it with a soft one then of course you’ll be angry.

The worst is when they make things look like bad science fiction by moving everything into awkward places and wasting 90% of my screen with dumb looking polish that does nothing but slow performance and add bugs.

Meowoem,

I have a community for a project on Reddit which is the only reason I use it anymore, I’ve tried using new Reddit so many times but it’s so painful that I really think I’m just let the community die if they force me off old

Meowoem,

Free cad is brilliant especially if you come from a more technical understanding rather than an artistic one.

Meowoem,

What year do you think we’ll get the first product mined and manufacturered in space? And how about the first space grown food sold commercially?

I would guess 2040 and 2050 respectively, we’ll have the automation tools to get started by 2030 with government science projects then a decade for it to mature into something a company can try to create a market with, probably something that can only be made in low gravity like solve form of novelty such as space glass spheres or a special use material.

I think food will be fast behind because people will pay a lot for it and there’s already a lot of research into it for use in space based living facilities.

Meowoem,

Oh I had totally missed the 3d printing in space that’s really cool, just watching their video about it and wow is it painful with the marvel tie ins and stuff but looks very cool

Seems like the ability to control temperature dissipation without convection could be really useful especially with metals like platinum, might be even sooner that it’s commercialised at scale if they can gather raw platinum and make high quality parts especially something like premium bike or boat parts, the corrosion resistance would make it perfect for tidal generation components too.

That could be a possible first strong business, if the space platinum to earth pipeline is already in progress then it should be relatively cheap to divert some for manufacturing then parachuting them in splash down zones would make sense for tidal generator parts.

Of course with progress on fusion it’s possible there won’t be a huge market for reliable cheap energy but we’ll see. I suspect the first thing made will be jewelry that’s sold in small amounts for absurd prices.

Meowoem,

Maybe, it’s so hard to guess which way things will go. I would place a safe bet though that a rich person will buy a bit of jewelry or a watch that was made in space from space mined metals within in the next ten years.

Meowoem,

They used to ban people in r/socialism for using it, I always assumed it was a tactic to make the left look stupid

Meowoem,

Wow you’ve brought back unhappy memories ‘a for achievement, d for effort’ and ‘you got everything right but poor presentation, c’

Worst was when I’d to a test and get all the answers right and they’d question how I did so well, bitch because you can’t take marks away for no reason on a multiple choice. Actual worst was that this was 1990 and they wouldn’t let me do my homework typed ‘when you get a job your boss is going to need things hand written’ fucking what lol

Meowoem,

I hate kier but not voting for Labour would be stupid, protest votes or non votes don’t count any the only people pushing that idiocy are the rich right wing because they don’t want you to vote against them

Everyone just thinks ‘oh look these people are too dumb, busy, or disconnected to vote oh well’

You can still resist and work against a system you voted for,

Meowoem,

I don’t really understand gay couples either, I don’t even understand gay people singularly. I think I understood them better as a child to be honest, like oh look two men are in a relationship that’s nice for them. Now I see a lot more detail and it starts getting confusing, like when you see two handsome guys just hanging out in a coffee bar holding hands. Where did they meet? It sure as fuck wasn’t on Grindr! And how can they just walk around being hot and sexy all day! Why aren’t they exhausted by the pure pressure of existence?!

But yeah you don’t need to understand, no one understands anything anyway it’s far harder to understand why two men shouldn’t be allowed to love each other. Can anyone ever actually explain that without evoking a whole big fantasy about a powerful wizard that said it’s naughty?

I think that’s what they actually mean, it’s really hard to convince a kid that two guys shouldn’t be allowed to be happy together especially when you can just look over and see two perfectly happy guys in nice clothes who look like they’ve stopped for lunch before going and bring really good at some racket based sport after which they’re going to a movie and sitting with their arms around each other… Strong arms from the racket sport, a slight hint of perspiration even after their shower together…

Meowoem,

You see what an absolute shit show that would be? Banning people for opinions the government decide are false historically doesn’t go well

Is anyone else worried about the apple vision pro?

i wouldn’t normally be concerned since any company releasing a VR product with this price tag is obviously going to fail… but it’s apple and somehow through exquisite branding and sleek design they have managed to create something that resonated with “tech reviewers” and rich folk who can afford it....

Meowoem,

Wow your country sounds horrible and toxic, I hope things get better and it evolves to the point where people can live their own lives without needless bullying and abuse for trivial things.

Meowoem,

No we need big name projects for exactly that reason, a hundred billion pounds is nothing just to give the people who complain and block everything something to do - if they were free roaming then the rest of the country would grind to a halt over night.

Meowoem,

I still feel like he’s nitpicking tbh, wiring diagrams can have devices with variable or probabilistic states and though the maths is very complex it’s theoretically possible to similate and map.

Meowoem,

It’s still a rusty machine even if the maths that control it are a bit more complex

Meowoem,

But it doesn’t do that instantly and it does it for good reason, eyes and the sections of the brain using them require energy and are vulnerable to infection so in situations where they don’t provide an advantage they increase the likelihood of death before breeding thus giving any offspring born with less energy devoted to eyes has a small advantage which over s very long time results in them being selected away.

So unless the creatures reach a perfect form for their environment then they’ll always be in the process of changing and have some of the old junk in there. Also if the formerly useful part doesn’t make any real difference to survivability there’s no force driving it to be selected away from, it might eventually be removed by lots of pure chance events but that’s going to take a huge amount of generations meaning the middle time where there’s junk not yet removed us going to be very long

Meowoem,

Everything is math, it’s what controls gravity and cell division and protein folding - there is no god it’s all just math

Of course the model is only a model but the point is you can use the model to predict real world responses, therefore you can test millions of things and do the one which is most likely to work

Meowoem,

Yes that’s a model, I’m not saying the model magically controls reality but that the underpinning reality is math - the reason you always have two apples in a bag when you start with one and add another is because of math, the human model of that isn’t controlling it but if we want two apples in a bag and we currently only have one then we can use our model to determine how many apples we need to add into the bag.

The same is true of more complex systems, if we can accurately model the cellar interactions then we can derive solutions in the same way

Meowoem,

You’re using odd ways of describing things to try and win a pointless argument, even if everything you say is correct then it changes literally nothing about anything so whatever yeah use words like a weirdo if you like

Meowoem,

That’s ridiculous, if I think that one apple plus one apple is going to result in three apples then I try it and find it’s actually two I’m not going to blame the universe I’m going to know my understanding of arithmetic is flawed.

It’s not the math of the human made model that controls the universe that would be silly. The model is the current best approximation of the actual math that defines the universe.

An accurate model allows you to predict the outcome of events, like we can predict how many apples will be in the bag. With some things it gets very complicated because there’s lots of things and various possible states but we can model that with statistics and calculous and stuff. We can even make a set of all possibile results and use that as a map to tell us if something is possible, how likely it is and what we can do to make it more or less likely - nothing the guy said was controversial, we can map cellar interactions even if that requires using complex multidimensional math (mathematics have had to get used to doing this sort of math a lot recently so I’m sure they’ll manage)

Meowoem,

Well that depends what you think defines a bottle

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