It’s not all that different from irl conversations then, except you cannot look in each others’ eyes to gauge sincerity. So ask yourself: why have irl conversations at all - especially when you know they will turn ugly? We cannot really help you further b/c you have hidden behind an alt account here, though I hope this gives you some stuff to think about.
After leaving Kbin (for unrelated reasons), where those spaces are blocked by default, I started to wonder if I should leave Lemmy, then realized it was not all that way but only certain spaces, easily blocked ever since 0.19.3. (Reddit had become virtually all that way, so it was making sense to me to think that social media was just becoming that way in general.)
However, saying the names of those spaces out loud is likely to trigger removal by a mod.
This is a real problem for wanting the Fediverse to grow in the future, as unsuspecting new people see that and - the sane ones anyway - don’t want any part of it. Every one of us, unless we were warned, learned the hard way about “those places”. By ignoring the issues, e.g. by leaving it up to each individual user to block those instances, we allow this situation to perpetuate. I for one think it would be far friendlier to block any instance where there is a >75% chance that a new user would be not merely downvoted but outright insulted and make such communities opt-in rather than the current situation of needing to first detect which ones are that way and then opt-out of each one individually.
- Gazprom posted a loss of $7 bln in 2023, first since end-1990s***- Gazprom’s pipeline gas sales to Europe slump******- Russia banks on business with Asia******- Price of Russian gas for China seen gradually declining***...
A key piece missing here: many EU nations were working for a long time towards reducing their reliance upon gas & oil in general and on it coming from Russia as a source specifically. iirc Germany was even on target to reduce that to zero by 2025, before the Ukraine invasion started? So how much of this dip in revenue was already likely, regardless of the war?
It would seem disingenuous to call it a “loss” even in that case, if it was less than a prior year but it wasn’t expected to begin with - that’s generally not how that word works, when the identical revenue stream projected into the future was not “expected”.
Gazprom may even be okay with everything that is happening as part of the overall restructuring / realignment plan to shift from EU to more Asian markets where impending climate change may be considered to be less of an impediment to future purchases than the EU market was becoming. e.g. when faced with market changes, rather than pivot to meet the newer challenges of green(-er) energy, Gazprom may welcome this doubling down on old ways of doing business in the Asian sphere.
The research from Purdue University, first spotted by news outlet Futurism, was presented earlier this month at the Computer-Human Interaction Conference in Hawaii and looked at 517 programming questions on Stack Overflow that were then fed to ChatGPT....
So it is incorrect and verbose, but also comprehensive and using a well-articulated language style at the same time?
Also “study participants still preferred ChatGPT answers 35% of the time”, meaning that the overwhelming majority (two-thirds) did not prefer the bot answers over the human(e), correct ones, that maybe were not phrased as confidently as they could have been.
Just say it out loud: ChatGPT is style over substance, aka Fox News. 🦊
AI hallucination is a technical phrase, with the definition:
In the field of artificial intelligence, a hallucination or artificial hallucination is a response generated by AI which contains false or misleading information presented as fact. This term draws a loose analogy with human psychology, where hallucination typically involves false percepts.
So it’s like how a person sees stuff that isn’t there, and similarly with AI.
“which contains false or misleading information presented as fact” (emphasis added) - the definition does not say how the misinformation was derived, only that it is in fact misinformation.
Perhaps it was meant humorously - e.g. if “Socks are edible” is a band name. Or perhaps someone is legitimately that dumb, that they believe that socks are genuinely edible. Or perhaps they were cooking up a recipe for maliciously harming someone by giving them intestinal upset. Or… are socks edible, if you cook them in an acidic substance that breaks apart their fabric?
If e.g. you got cancer and were going through chemo but someone came to visit you and gave you COVID and you died, was that “their fault”, if they believed that COVID was merely a conspiracy theory? Perhaps… or perhaps it was your own fault, especially if you were aware that this has happened to multiple people before, and now you are just the latest casualty (bc you presumed that despite them doing it to others, they would never do it to you). Legalities of murder and blame aside, should we believe AI now that we know - regardless of how or why - it presents false information?
No, these “hallucinations” or “mirages” or whatever someone calls them makes them unreliable. Actually I think hallucination is a good name i.e. it cannot distinguish fact from fiction itself, therefore it cannot be trusted as it relates that info to you in a confident sounding manner.
In natural language processing, a hallucination is often defined as “generated content that appears factual but is ungrounded”. The main cause of hallucination from data is source-reference divergence… When a model is trained on data with source-reference (target) divergence, the model can be encouraged to generate text that is not necessarily grounded and not faithful to the provided source.
e.g., I continued your provided example of when “socks are edible” is a band name, but the output ended up in a cooking context.
There is a section on en.wikipedia.org/…/Hallucination_(artificial_inte… but the issue seems far from settled that hallucinations is somehow a bad word. And it is not entirely illogical, since AI, like humans, necessarily has a similar tension between novelty and creativity - i.e. going beyond either of our training to deal with new circumstances.
I suspect that the term is here to say. But I am nowhere close to an authority and could definitely be wrong:-). Mostly I am saying that you seem to be arguing a niche viewpoint, not entirely without merit obviously but one that we here in the Fediverse may not be as equipped to banter back and forth on except in the most basic of capacities.:-)
Now who is anthropomorphizing? It’s not about “blame” so much as needing words to describe the event. When the AI cannot be relied upon, bc it was insufficiently trained to be able to distinguish truth from reality, which btw many humans struggle with these days too, that is not its fault but it would be our fault if we in turn relied upon it as a source of authoritative knowledge, merely bc it was presented in a confident sounding manner.
No, my example is literally telling the AI that socks are edible and then asking it for a recipe.
Wait… while true that that sounds like not hallucination then, what does that have to do with this discussion? The OP wasn’t about running an AI model in this direct manner, it was about doing Google searches, where the results are already precomputed. It does not become a “hallucination” until whoever asked for the socks to be considered as edible tries to pass those results off in a wider context - where they are generally speaking considered inedible - as being applicable, when they would not be.
Probably not about computers per se - like the Greatest generation knew a lot more about horses than the average person today - and similarly we know more about the things that have mattered to us over the course of our lifetimes.
What would get weird for us is if when we are retirement age - ofc we cannot ever retire, bc capitalism - and someone talks about the new horglesplort based on alien vibrations which are computer-generated from the 11th dimension of string theory and we are all like “wut!?”
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That said, humanity seems to not only have slowed down the accretion of new knowledge but actually gone backwards - children today won’t live as long as boomers did, and e.g. despite being on mobile devices all day long, most don’t have the foggiest clue of how computing works as in programming or even binary. So we will likely be confused in the opposite way as in “why can’t you understand this?”
Culture constantly evolves - e.g. “the matrix” used to mean one thing, then after the film starring Keanu Reeves it now means something else.
Also AI itself used to mean one thing, as in general intelligence like a robot slave that has never performed a task before, but you tell it to become a maid and it teaches itself and becomes one just like a human would, but now the term has been coopted to mean the product of a training procedure. The managers at Google, Apple, Microsoft, OpenAI, ChatGPT, etc. don’t seem to mind or care about this bastardization of the terminology, as they borrow its power (from the movies and books and other works that have used “AI” in the former sense) while only paying lip service to actually putting in the effort to construct it.
And even with its greatly reduced formulation in the sense of an LLM, they still don’t bother to train even that all that well - e.g. feeding it Reddit data that was intentionally corrupted as a result of Huffman’s having greatly offended and stolen the communities from the same mods who originally built them. Yes they stole the terms, yes they are using it improperly - but what is anyone going to do about it? Words only have meaning by the consent of those who use them.
And if you are interested, I think you are fighting a losing battle bc of the way you are approaching it. Instead of acknowledging that others “know” the subject differently, and gently offering a nice perspective that they perhaps had not considered before - who isn’t interested in historical tidbits about topics of interest, when presented in a captivating manner? - you instead came on strong, saying that everyone else is wrong except you, who has the secret knowledge. I know, it’s true, but who cares? If your goal was to inform people, then do you think you succeeded? At least, I think you could have succeeded with a much wider audience. Ofc your words, so your call to do whatever you want with them, but I thought I would offer this perspective at least.
They’re not hallucinations. People are getting very sloppy with terminology.
This sounds like a temper tantrum, you blaming everyone else for how you feel about the matter. Again, right or wrong, doesn’t it sound like that to you now that I’ve pointed that out? Well, again, it’s your choice to think about that or not, but I did want to offer in case it may help:-).
The only reliable way to spot a falsehood is to know the truth so well that a counterfeit / alternative truth cannot pull one over on you.
Keep asking questions, it’s literally the only way to find the real Truth! As btw both the scientific method in the age of enlightenment and also the Christian Bible itself literally mandates, in e.g. I Thessalonians 5:21 and 1 John 4:1 etc.
That’s the issue with any “freedom” - we can make a wrong choice. e.g. lack of gun control allows school shootings, literally daily:-(. Though on the internet, we can go anywhere, do as we please, and say anything!
I would not call any of these three issues fully “unchallenged”, in the sense that many words have been expended about them, on all sides, though ultimately yes you are correct: nobody has altered the laws to allow stopping of any of them (yet internet freedoms are the ones at most risk right now, due to authoritarianism).
otherwise everyone dies in the streets except a few thousand rich people
Which is probably why the revolution would be allowed in the first place. They have their own islands or stay perpetually in the air - they can afford to wait it out.
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Do you avoid discussing some topics online even if you have something you'd like to say about them?
I’ve been doing this for some time now. Even if it’s something that I consider important....
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Russia: Loss of state-owned energy giant Gazprom, the first in decades, shows the Kremlin's struggle to fill EU gas sales gap with China (www.reuters.com)
- Gazprom posted a loss of $7 bln in 2023, first since end-1990s***- Gazprom’s pipeline gas sales to Europe slump******- Russia banks on business with Asia******- Price of Russian gas for China seen gradually declining***...
Americans, what's the plan if Trump wins the election in November? (serious)
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ChatGPT Answers Programming Questions Incorrectly 52% of the Time: Study (gizmodo.com)
The research from Purdue University, first spotted by news outlet Futurism, was presented earlier this month at the Computer-Human Interaction Conference in Hawaii and looked at 517 programming questions on Stack Overflow that were then fed to ChatGPT....
Yes, that's a real pickle. (lemmy.world)
Google Search Is Now a Giant Hallucination (gizmodo.com)
Google rolled out AI overviews across the United States this month, exposing its flagship product to the hallucinations of large language models.
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USA Unprepared for H5N1 Pandemic (www.newsweek.com)
In short we’ve learned nothing, done nothing, and will be caught flat again. If you’re not ready, get ready, because no one is coming to save you.
Someone stop the ride, I want to get off (midwest.social)