if you want to post links or discuss Reddit over the next while, please localize it to this thread in order to keep things tidy, thanks! (a more formal body may be forthcoming, but that'll come in the morning if so)
If they really do shut off API access I'll go into partial link aggregator withdrawal. My Lemmy instance still isn't upgraded to the latest versions which are compatible with apps, so I don't browse on my phone.
I have read very, very little about Dutch politics in recent years. Today I read that Rutte is even more unpopular among you than the misanthrope Macron....
13 years is plenty of time to anger the majority of your constituents in one way or another. Unless you have some sort of religious or cultural support, governments tend to become unpopular over time. And that's not even addressing substantively what happened in NL over the past decade...
once again speaking for myself here, except where these sentiments have already been expressed by other admins. this is not a moderator document or anything, and it will not be stickied....
Aw man. Please tell me you are at least somehow monetizing my Personally Identifiable Information? That's the minimum I would expect from a social media platform in 2023 😉
It's good you keep putting this out there, and this messaging will have to continue. Lemmy really was not ready for this influx of users. Even Mastodon with a much longer history of active development was barely ready for its rapid growth.
This place is great regardless. Glitches and limitations and all. Thanks.
After the (temporary) defederation announcement of earlier i checked the Lemmy repo to see if there was already a ticket on the federation limiting option like Mastodon's that people mentioned Lemmy doesn't yet have. Not only i didn't find it, i also saw that there's about 200+ open tickets of variable importance. Also saw that...
You're right of course, but there's tons of individual features which can be worked on in relative isolation. The devs need help with moderation tools, performance, frontend, etc. With 200+ open issues I'm sure more developers making proactive pull requests can make a difference.
Mastodon really has top tier moderation and federation controls. Unfortunately Lemmy was very niche before the recent surge in users, so the project never got the attention it needed to get these tools ready for the current surge in activity.
It must be a problem with mod tooling. Mastodon federation works essentially the same way as Lemmy and small teams of admins seem to be able to keep instances with 10,000s of users under control.
As someone running my own single-user Lemmy instance for a few different reasons and enjoying interacting with Beehaw (and agreeing with your community ethos!) I really think federation is great. Individual forums have a high barriers of entry. Having to check multiple pages, create accounts, learn the UX, etc. Here I can access so many great communities from one place.
Hopefully with the current surge in popularity the Lemmy project will get more developers to help out and features like powerful mod tools will allow Beehaw to better handle users of external instances. Mastodon admins seem to be able to handle Federation more easily, presumably thanks to the tooling.
Both were down for me before, they seem to be up right now but just made this account on Lemmy.blahaj.zone (Henry is the name of my actual blahaj lol). It's probably because of the traffic influx from reddit refugees from the absolutely disastrous spez ama (where he doubles down on everything and doesn't apologize at all)....
Always available and snappy no matter how busy some parts of the Fediverse get
You choose who to federate with. Want to talk to both puppy-lovers and puppy-haters? No problem.
It's a social media account you really, in every sense of the word, own. Nobody can take it away from you. The lemmy.ml admins could accept the billions* they're surely being offered right now for their instance, but my account is still mine.
Cons:
Hosting costs some money, knowledge, and time.
Unless you subscribe to specific communities (or people, in the cast of Mastodon) those posts will never reach your server. So you don't really have a "Federated" timeline
Reddit has a strategy for this which works quite well. I'm not sure how it works, but I suspect it's something like sorting posts in each subreddit you've subscribed to, scoring them based on their popularity inside the subreddit (irrespective of the absolute # votes), and then mixing these posts together on your feed. So an unusually popular post in a niche 100 subscriber subreddit can still easily climb to the top of your feed.
Greetings and apologies in advance if im not doing it right. I tried searching for a community about blender and 3d sculpting software but I didnt find anything here or anywhere else....
I believe defederation is one of the best things about the Fediverse. People who say objectionable things have the right to free speech too (within reason), but I just don't want to see it or interact with them. Defederation enables peaceful coexistence in a way which could never work on a centralized social media platform.
I don't completely disagree, but that's not what I meant. People are conflating the views of Lemmy's main developers with the project itself, and I believe they can be separated.
It's easy to discover communities on my instance via the dedicated page in the hamburger menu. But let's say I want to follow a community on another instance, such as !lemmy . I might have found its name mentioned in a post or comment. When I click on the provided link, I'm thrown on that instances web page, from which I of...
Mastodon for all its sophistication has exactly the same limitations though. Linking to a post is a full URL which takes me to a remote instance where I can no longer interact. And boosted posts are missing replies if they have not been previously pushed to my instance. I realize there's some problems with a fetch model (extra server load) but it would be so nice if I could browse the entirety of Fedi from the comfort of my own instance without having to paste URLs in search bars.
Although everyone is welcome, I think I would especially like seeing those who care enough about good social media experiences to want to use 3rd party clients join Fedi platforms like Lemmy.
This site is currently struggling to handle the amount of new users. I have already upgraded the server, but it will go down regardless if half of Reddit tries to join....
No. I am on my own little single-user instance and I can follow, vote, post and reply anywhere from here. It's just a little awkward sometimes because you have to learn how to paste URLs in the search box, and until you subscribe there will be some missing content. But once you get past that, everything works.
Well yeah, point taken that replicating everything everywhere and forever might be impossible. But I do believe at a minimum my identity should be portable and accessing Fedi (ie. in microblogging: posting and viewing a feed of the latest posts of my follows) should be decoupled from which instance I pick to access the Fediverse.
I don't particularly like how owners of instances which grew are now essentially locked in to having to spend 100s or 1000s of dollars a month keeping their now expensive instances running and providing service. This is a bad place to be for a platform ran by volunteers. Letting instance owners scale their service down as well as up would be ideal. But this requires at least decentralized identity, and at best some form of content hosting redundancy...
It's easy to say the current architecture of Fedi works when it's still small. Your instance has 139 users.. That's not intended as a slight. Hosting instances is good and I applaud you for it! But I wish it were easier to more equally share the load once the platform becomes more popular.
This is exactly what I have been doing. I enjoy this way of interacting with Fedi.
Pros:
No reliance on the charity of others.
Refresh as many times as you want without worrying about server load.
Decide exactly which apps to host, and how they look and feel.
Cons:
Hosting costs money/time.
Interacting with remote instances is sometimes a little more work as you have to copy URLs and paste them in your search, and you're less likely to have already fetched content because of other users subscribing to these remote instances.
Generally interacting with other instances works just fine. Especially on Mastodon I hardly ever notice I'm on a single user instance. Lemmy because of its different style of application (e.g. it's more common to link to posts) presents empty posts a bit more often but I hope a bit more proactive fetching of remote content can be added at some point.
Hosting your own instances may not be for everyone but it is for me, and I can recommend it.
Thanks Beehaw admins & mods & sysadmins. Even before this week it felt like such a welcoming community with good principles. Beehaw made me want to try Lemmy again. And it's been fun. We appreciate you.
Get ready to call on more help with scaling, because if Reddit shuts down their API in July looking back this week may seem like a small event in comparison.
Something to consider with regards to spam is this: The Fediverse works very similar to email. Spam has never been solved for email, even after decades of trying all sorts of ever more complicated mechanisms. I expect it to become an equally painful and challenging problem for Fedi.
Good post. On the other hand, IMHO (as a non-Fedi-expert I should say), I think the Fediverse does not absolutely need to appeal to everyone. A lot of people are happy with Twitter, and a lot of people are happy with Facebook. Evolving Mastodon into a clone of Twitter is perhaps missing the point of building a different platform in the first place. Not to say there's no place for new ideas or criticism of course...
To add after reading the post again: A centralized social media site with a professional content moderation team is, of course, always going to provide a better experience to new users. I don't think a decentralized platform will ever be able to compete, by design. "Full text search" and "quote posts" are not going to help when someone accidentally joins a poorly moderated instance.
FediTips might be more alarmist than most, but I agree with them. The concentration of activity on Mastodon.social is dangerous.
IMO the solution is to streamline signing up to different servers (or, and far better, implement nomadic identity!), not to continue to beef up Mastodon.social's infrastructure and draw more and more users there...
Kabinet-Rutte IV valt: partijen worden het niet eens over migratie (www.nu.nl)
Rutte IV is dood, leve Rutte V
Megathread for Reddit News & App Shutdowns
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Steam Summer Sale 2023 Recommendations Thread
Dishonored (2012) $2.49 at -75%...
Why are you guys unhappy with Mark Rutte (nitter.poast.org)
I have read very, very little about Dutch politics in recent years. Today I read that Rutte is even more unpopular among you than the misanthrope Macron....
Lemmy just passed 1 million users! (lemm.ee)
cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/231886...
This Is Not A Faceless Megacorporation: a second reminder to be measured in what you expect of us
once again speaking for myself here, except where these sentiments have already been expressed by other admins. this is not a moderator document or anything, and it will not be stickied....
Lemmy is in serious need of more devs
After the (temporary) defederation announcement of earlier i checked the Lemmy repo to see if there was already a ticket on the federation limiting option like Mastodon's that people mentioned Lemmy doesn't yet have. Not only i didn't find it, i also saw that there's about 200+ open tickets of variable importance. Also saw that...
ANNOUNCEMENT: defederating effective immediately from lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works
hey folks, we'll be quick and to the point with this one:...
Lemmy.ml and beehaw.org getting hammered with traffic because of spez ama
Both were down for me before, they seem to be up right now but just made this account on Lemmy.blahaj.zone (Henry is the name of my actual blahaj lol). It's probably because of the traffic influx from reddit refugees from the absolutely disastrous spez ama (where he doubles down on everything and doesn't apologize at all)....
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new community request
Greetings and apologies in advance if im not doing it right. I tried searching for a community about blender and 3d sculpting software but I didnt find anything here or anywhere else....
People who think Lemmy is too political and refuse to join is good.
https://old.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/140vbey/launching_rlemmymigration_what_communities_have/jmxnzsh/?context=1...
Following remote communities is hard.
It's easy to discover communities on my instance via the dedicated page in the hamburger menu. But let's say I want to follow a community on another instance, such as !lemmy . I might have found its name mentioned in a post or comment. When I click on the provided link, I'm thrown on that instances web page, from which I of...
Reddit mods are organizing blackouts to protest against API changes (www.reddit.com)
Some of the planned blackouts will be temporary, others plan to shut their subreddits down indefinitely in protest.
lemmy.ml is overloaded, use other instances instead
This site is currently struggling to handle the amount of new users. I have already upgraded the server, but it will go down regardless if half of Reddit tries to join....
How much of a good idea is to have my own instance just to have my account?
I'm thinking about deploying my own instance where I'd be the only user and most probable I won't have any communities....
I can fucking relax a little bit
Over the past 48 hours I have been glued to my screen trying to figure out how to make Beehaw more robust during this Reddit exodus....
Mastodon instances are being hit by an organized spam attack (mastodon.social)
Mastodon (and the Fediverse) have grown, now spam and bots are going to become a more common and challenging threat to instances
Blue Skies Over Mastodon (erinkissane.com)
Written by @kissane
The Fediverse is in Danger (mstdn.social)