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maegul, to mastodon
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UI differences are a big factor in the success/failure of decentralised federation of diverse platforms and content

And this seems a good example: bridged posts onto which has a lower character limit than Mastodon.

So, just like posts on mastodon, you don't get the full content of the post (which ends with an abrupt ellipsis here) and have to take a link to the original platform.

However powerful the underlying protocols, this isn't far from screenshots.

@fediverse

maegul,
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@can

Lemmy federates pretty well with mastodon. From mastodon you can follow a community as you would any person/user.

There are two major problems though.

  1. everything in that community comes through as a flat firehose, including comments. There's structuring into posts with comments inside.
  2. Mastodon doesn't understand the type of object lemmy sends over ActivityPub, and so simply provides a title and a link to the original post.

Also, you can just follow lemmy users on mastodon.

robcinos, to random
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Back in the mid 90s, I though that copyright would be made obsolete by emerging web technologies and ease of digital replication.

I had not yet reckoned with or realized the sheer evil of corporate America. Of course, copyright would not just magically disappear. It would be weaponized.

How anyone thinks any different about new "AI" training is probably the most perplexing thing to the neophyte.

maegul,
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@robcinos

This dialogue seems to always ring true, sadly:

William Roper: “So, now you give the Devil the benefit of law!”

Sir Thomas More: “Yes! What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?”

William Roper: “Yes, I'd cut down every law in England to do that!”

1/2

maegul,
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@robcinos

Sir Thomas More: “Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man's laws, not God's! And if you cut them down, and you're just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake!

― Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons

maegul,
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@robcinos

Yep. Punch line being: “Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake!”

(In the second post)

brianb, to random
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I've noticed a big shift toward, "We should be teaching kids how to cite AI."

That's antithetical to citations. A citation points you to the original source. Citing AI is effectively erasing original sources in a misguided effort to "teach students how to responsibly use AI tools."

Responsible use is teaching people that AI tools are plagiarism machines. Period.

maegul,
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@brianb

Ok, likely unproductive response, but what the actual fuck!

Is this the education system still getting to grips with Wikipedia and the internet maybe being not entirely irrelevant and so applying the same degree of acceptance of Wikipedia to AI?

Or is this corporate propaganda?

Or just desperation at not know what to do anymore as tech disrupts traditional education structures (a real problem I’d wager)?

Either way, citing AI is just dumb and betrays someone who’s confused about AI

maegul,
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@curubethion @brianb

Makes sense. But still, seems like a quick capitulation which implies there’s more perceived heft behind AI. In part I’d say because it actually looks convincing and that traditional assessment is actually disrupted by it.

My bias here being that I suspect it a largely good thing that AI does disrupt traditional educational assessment as it likely reveals the superficiality in education that AI achieves.

maegul, to longcovid
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I'm slowly realising that I probably have some mild

Since having covid (now had it twice since 2022): iron deficiencies, breathing problems, constant asthma, and now a sudden allergy to some foods apparently.

My partner and I have been careful throughout the pandemic but clearly not careful enough at times (twice each) since "opening up".

And though it could be far far worse, I feel pretty violated right now TBH.

@coronavirus
@longcovid

maegul,
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@tobi82 @coronavirus @longcovid

I wasn’t looking for sympathy, just sharing an experience.

You have no idea what my background is or for what reasons I’ve been infected in the past.

What’s more you’re completely neglecting the importance of the social dimensions that lead to widespread infection of an airborn virus while trumping up absolute individualism as the sole basis of responsibility and blame.

All of which is a rather flawed outlook IMO, along with a poor demeanour TBH.

maegul, (edited )
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@cwicseolfor @tobi82 @coronavirus @longcovid

Well yea. The responsibilities we take for our actions are obviously important (and should be addressed more IMO), but blaming the sick for not protecting themselves rather than focusing on those negligent in preventing infection and in not taking care of others … is a choice.

maegul,
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fediversereport, to bluesky
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New: Video, audio and blogging: Japanese is building in the ATmosphere

I take a look at 3 new products build on

Blogging with whtwnd.com
Video with bluemotion.app
Audio spaces with bluecast.app

Read at: https://fediversereport.com/video-audio-and-blogging-japanese-bluesky-is-building-in-the-atmosphere/

maegul,
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@seanbala @fediversereport

There are problems here too. I suspect this is a fundamental issue that decentralised social media hasn’t taken seriously enough. It’s a bit like back and front end people not working together well. Protocol people can be inclined to underestimate the importance of what happens in the client, which IMO is where federation actually happens, as it’s there that platforms and UIs need to get stitched together.

I’ve ranted about this before (eg: https://hachyderm.io/@maegul/112319245679533802)

juliancday, to random
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maegul,
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@krst @juliancday

It's obviously no reddit in size, very far from it, but it's by no means empty either.

The "threadiverse" is the current "growth" area of the fediverse IMO, especially if you include blogs like WP and Ghost. See eg: https://community.nodebb.org/post/99736

Getting involved and supporting that kind of platform on the fediverse is IMO a good idea. The fediverse needs more "community building" tools, and forums/reddits are good for that. Lemmy even has private sub-lemmies on the road map.

GossiTheDog, to random
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Slack have decided to start training AI on enterprise customer data, including DMs, private workspaces and files. You have to have admin opt out via email. HT @Quinnypig

https://slack.com/intl/en-gb/trust/data-management/privacy-principles

maegul,
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@chetwisniewski @GossiTheDog @Quinnypig

Relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/743/

"The worlds tiniest open-source violin"

mackuba, to random
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maegul,
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@mackuba

::all the vomiting emojis::

Can't wait to federate with them!

ben, to random
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If Google makes its money through contextual ads on search results pages now, in an AI-driven world it’ll make its money through sponsored answers (or just contextual ads related to the answers). The way sites will continue to get traffic is through buying ads.

maegul,
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@ben

Yea, I said more or less the same the other day: https://hachyderm.io/@maegul/112442514504667645

My guess is that Google’s plan is to leverage their ads dominance to be the first to sustainably monetise AI and keep it “up to date”

maegul, to technology
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Google's play on Search, Ads and AI feels obvious to me.

  • They know search is broken.
  • And that people use AI in part because it takes the ads and SEO crap out.
  • IE, AI is now what Google was in 2000. A simple window onto the internet.
  • Ads/SEO profits will fall with AI.
  • But Google will then just insert shit into AI "answers" for money.
  • Ads managed + up-to-date AI will be their new mote and golden goose.

@technology

See @caseynewton 's blog post: https://mastodon.social/@caseynewton/112442253435702607

maegul,
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@technology @caseynewton

That search/SEO is broken seems to be part of the game plan here.

It's probably like Russia burning Moscow against Napoleon and a hell of a privilege Google enjoy with their monopoly.

I've seen people opt for chatGPT/AI precisely because it's clean, simple and spam free, because it isn't Google Search.

And as @caseynewton said ... the web is now in managed decline.

For those of us who like it, it's up to us to build what we need for ourselves. Big tech has moved on

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