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matthieu_xyz,
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@le_saucisson_masque
Lorsque tu postes sur lemmy, il y au moins trois dictateurs bienveillants qui peuvent te censurer.

L’admin de là où t’as créé ton compte.

Le modo de la communauté où tu as posté.

L’admin de là où se trouve ta communauté.

Je suppose que les admins de là où se trouve les lecteurs peuvent te masquer, mais ça changera pas grand chose pour 95% du reste du réseau ça n’affectera qu’un nombre réduit de lecteurs qui se trouve sur ce server en particulier.

Are we using Lemmy correctly?

What I think could make Lemmy superior to Reddit is the ability to create themed-instances that are all linked together which feels like the entire point. I've noticed that a lot of instances are trying to be a catch-all Reddit replacement by imitating specific subs which is understandable given the circumstances but seems like...

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@_finger_
We can have both generic instances and instances around a particular topic.

We already have a few lemmy dedicated to a particular community like latte.isnot.coffee and startrek.website

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@SuperIce @domage
Misskey is a Japanese twitter-like. It’s actually older than mastodon and very popular in Japan specifically. They have custom emoji reactions under posts, they have animation and advanced markdown, they can have cat ears on their profile pictures, THEY HAVE QUOTE REPOST, chat, advanced search features, etc.

Misskey have been forked multiple times (foudkey, calckey, etc.) and those forks are more popular in English-speaking communities.

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@ValueSubtracted
Instance users are only local users.
Community users include remote users who remotely subscribed to the community.

So the community users will always be higher than the number of instance users.

And it still doesn’t count lurkers like we who reply to a thread without subscribing.

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@V4uban J’apprécie énormément l’effort des nouveaux arrivants pour créer rapidement de nouvelle instances. (comme sh.itjust.works). Mais on ne sait pas trop si ça va durer dans le temps.

C’est cool de répartir les utilisateurs sur pleins de petits serveurs, mais pour héberger les communautés, il vaudrait mieux des instances de taille moyenne hébergés par des admins expérimentés.

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@chocolatine
Ça dépend de ce que l’on attend de lemmy. Si l’objectif c’est de dépasser Reddit en nombre d’utilisateurs/post par minute ou n’importe quelle autre métrique. Non j’y crois pas du tout

Si l’objectif c’est de passer un cap critique qui permet au réseau d’être utilisable et utile. Alors oui c’est tout à fait possible. Mastodon l’a fait et c’est plus dur de réseauter un twitter-like qu’un reddit-like. Même une commu reddit de 10 personnes peut être cool, twitter est censé être mondial

matthieu_xyz,
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@Bicyclejohn I don’t know about "replace", but popular social media could JOIN the fediverse.

I don’t blame new users to be late on news. But to make a quick recap, the people interested in implementing ActivityPub include:

  • Meta (insta/twt replacement)
  • Tumblr
  • Wordpress.com
  • Medium (currently only running mastodon)
  • Discourse
  • Flarum

Last time I check those were a few popular social media.

Discourse and Flarum in particular are relevant to Lemmy

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@aka_quant_noir @Bicyclejohn

Some people are working on that. Calckey will soon be able to import posts from twitter (can alerady import from mastodon). Pixelfed can already import from instagram right now!!

Kbin and lemmy are very late in that regard. You can’t even migrate your social graph.

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@Senseibull
You can think of it like emails.

A lemmy community is like an automated mailbox that sends everything they receive to all subscribers.

You can host a mailing list/community on gmail.

Then you can subscribe to the mailing list from outlook.

Then a user can send a post to the mailing list from yahoo.

The automated mailbox at gmail will receive the message from yahoo and send it to outlook and all other subscribers.

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@aianarchist @CannotSleep420
There need to be one first follower for the community to be synced.

You are the first to follow this community from this lemmy server. Now the community is synced and will keep updating.

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@fediverse

https://kbin.social/m/fediverse/t/6802/08-06-23-Here-is-what-Meta-s-upcoming-fediverse-platform-and-Twitter

"Here is what Meta’s upcoming - fediverse platform, and - Twitter competitor looks like."

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@fomo_erotic @mstrbtr
Lemmy and kbin are two softwares who speak the same language. You can see kbin posts on lemmy and lemmy posts on kbin. Communities from lemmy are called magazines on kbin.

The features and UI are different. Kbin is more integrated to Twitter-like softwares like mastodon.

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@Kaldo @mstrbtr @fomo_erotic

Kbin has a "microblog" tab, you can see posts from mastodon people there. They’re either associated to a magazibe thanks to hashtags or in "random". And you can follow people.

On lemmy, you can’t follow people and any post that isn’t associated to a community is just invisible to you.

How Subscribing Helps Federate

I recently setup a new Lemmy instance and was surprised when my feed was mostly empty. I've since learned that a key part of Lemmy's federation is based on a user from your instance subscribing to communities on other instances. Only then, will your instance pull in posts from the subscribed community to your "All" feed....

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@PriorProject

I think that’s almost inevitable. Almost all mid-sized lemmy instances will have a copy of almost all mid-sized lemmy communities.

Lemmy is a very different beast compared to mastodon. Of course not everyone is following everyone on mastodon, but if you have an even slightly diverse userbase, they’ll subscribe to a lot of different communities and your instance will have a lot of traffic very quickly. Hosting lemmy is going to be challenging.

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@hellerphant @maegul

I think the main issue is that calckey.social is used as a pre-prod testing ground to live-test "-dev" releases that are less stable than even "-rc" releases let even stable releases.

The question is can calckey.social be both cutting-edge highly updated arch-linux style and the flagship of calckey? I like the idea of pre-testing new features before everyone else, but a flagship should be stable. It’s hard to do both.

They also have growing pains.

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@Marv IMO we need some NSFW instances. It wouldn’t be a problem with the rest of lemmy/kbin because it’s easy to filter out communities/magazine or entire instances.

There is a legitimate demand for NSFW content. And NSFW content can be a decisive factor in the success of a platform. (See Tumblr vs Twitter, photographs on instagram, etc.) Sex workers are also a vulnerable group and one of the goals of the fediverse is to provide a place for marginalized groups.

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@Marv
BUT, it needs moderation and moderating NSFW is hard, exhausting and time-consuming. Not everyone wants to do that. Also when I say NSFW content, it doesn’t have to be porn bot posting content they don’t own. It could be OC only, a photograph community that allows nude models, etc. Unlike porn dumps communities, those are important places to have.

Edit: Also research the history of switter, it’s very interesting. And one of the big failures of the fediverse. We should learn from it.

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How has ur lemmy experience been so far?

Im joining in on the reddit ditching thing, and was kinda worried at first that i wouldnt be able to like use it the way i did reddit as it feels like a whole new place, but after engaging with posts and people and actually being a part of lemmy rather than being lurk mode all the time i was pleasantly surprised with how easy it...

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@xboxLIVE @bruhsoulz
> I'm not sure if I'm able to see all posts

If only ONE user from pawb.social follows !some_community, then the entire community and all new messages will be sent to pawb.social.

So, unless your instance have a very low amount of user or the community you’re looking for has a very low amount of followers, every mid-sized community will soon be synced on all mid-sized lemmy server.

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@xboxLIVE @bruhsoulz

That’s a lot of message duplication and it will have some growing pains for the lemmy admins, but at least exploration shouldn’t be too hard.

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@bruhsoulz
If you want an example of what happens when two servers block one another.

calckey.social and lemmy.one can talk to each other. So my post is visible here: https://lemmy.one/comment/33034
calckey.social can’t talk with lemmy.ml so the post isn’t on lemmy.ml
Since lemmy.ml is the home server of "asklemmy", it can’t be forwarded to other servers so no one can see it except lemmy.one and calckey.social

matthieu_xyz,
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@bruhsoulz asklemmy is like a mailing list or a twitter bot that retweets everything it receives. If it can’t receive messages, it can’t retweet/boost/forward them to others.

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@jax @eshep It has been a problem for a long time, yes.

But there are people working on standardizing everything. It’s a fairly recent project, not very big in scope and not very mature. But it’s getting there.

It’s called FEP (Fediverse Enhancement Proposals) and it’s like RFC for the fediverse.

You can find the standards here:
https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/

And the discussion there:
https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/c/standards/fep/54

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@jax @eshep

Socialhub is also running on discourse which is ALSO implementing an ActivityPub plugins, which will be compatible with lemmy! And how do we know that this will be compatible with lemmy? Because they’re following the FEP-1b12!

You can find them here @feps (the plugin is read-only at the moment)

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@menturi @raccoon There is a bunch of other protocols other than ActivityPub who are also considered part of the fediverse: Diaspora, Zot, Streams, etc.

In fact ActivityPub wasn’t always the main protocol of the fediverse, it used to be OStatus. Mastdon was first build on top of OStatus before switching to ActivityPub.

But nowadays ActivityPub is by far the most used one.

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@elouboub Usually on the fediverse, you can copy and paste the url of a post in the search bar to find it.

That doesn’t seem to work on Kbin....

What you can do instead is find the profile page of the person, and scroll down to find the post.

https://kbin.social/u/@QasimRashid@mastodon.social

https://kbin.social/m/random/p/366827/Here-s-some-perspective-Americans-oCancel-student-debt-oCancel-medical-debt-o

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