Machinist3359

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Machinist3359,

Thousands of Palestinians held without trial for years.

Tens of thousands dead Palestinians, most of which children.

Many more displaced, being pushed out of Gaza to be refugees.

For months, they have been denied food, water, electricity, and Internet.

Meanwhile,

Israel uses AI to find 100s if targets daily, using drones and aircrafts. No boots on the ground. Billions in international aid. The people living life largely uninterrupted. Settlers getting more and more "free" land.

Can you piece together why the focus is on Israel?

Machinist3359, (edited )

Horseshit, don't equate this with collateral damage. The difference is nations generally minimize civilian death, not make it the sole purpose of the offense. It wouldn't be a war crime otherwise.

A study covered by Ha'aretz: the civilian deaths account for 61% of deaths from air strikes in Gaza.

This makes the Gaza slaughter more fatal to civilians than any other conflict in the entire 20th Century. The century that included many genocides and both world wars.

Machinist3359,

Is the "preventing world war III" in the room with us now?

Machinist3359,

*America writes to its private weapons industry

It's why all the dystopian cop toys like killer drones are R&Ded in Israel, using Palestinians as unwilling test subjects.

Machinist3359,

Biden, regardless of what one thinks of him, has totally bungled all public messaging in his presidency. No claimed victories, and constantly alienating the younger/active left. Look at this article, it doesn't inspire confidence to suggest "yeah it's past my time but..."

I think enough Americans hate a loser more than they fear a fascist. Not a majority, but enough in the right places. I'm hoping for divine intervention at this point

Machinist3359,

Yeah, bombing people is notoriously good at deterring further political violence (/s obviously).

What do you call collective punishment again? A War Cream? No that's not right ...

Machinist3359,

Eh there are some cool churches. Eliminate the conservative doomsday cult ones

Israeli Cabinet approves cease-fire with Hamas that includes release of some 50 hostages (apnews.com)

Israel’s Cabinet has approved a cease-fire deal with the Hamas militant group that would bring a temporary halt to a devastating war now in its seventh week. The Israeli government said that under the deal, Hamas is to free at least 50 of the roughly 240 hostages it is holding in the Gaza Strip over a four-day period.

Machinist3359,

People calling for ceasefire have been continually dismissed and told only a pause is possible. Now that Bidens support is tanking there is at least a pause. We'll see what happens in 4 days,

Machinist3359,

Wouldnt be an israel thread without downpunxx saying sime truly dizzy shit.

The countries you listed are all very different from one another, and from Israel. While all flawed, none of those are colonialist projects, and are in fact mostly former colonies -- drawing more paralels with Palestine than Israel, as the former was screwed iver by european map making.

A more apt comparison to Israel is early USA or 20th century South Africa, countries founded by newly independent colonists whi saught to displace or murder native inhabitants as "dangerous savages".

Israeli rightists are trying to reframe a Gaza population transfer as a 'moral act' (www.haaretz.com)

The idea of expelling Arabs to other countries was once linked to Meir Kahane and other far-right radicals, and thus considered anathema by most Israelis. Now, to the delight of right-wingers, the idea is gaining traction as a ‘moral' solution to the war.

Machinist3359,

Reminds me of jim crow and the "back to africa" position advocated for as the more kind way to treat fornerly enslaved folks. "We're treating you so poorly, wouldnt you rather leave?" Big morality brain

Israel-Hamas war live: Joe Biden says Gaza and West Bank should be ‘reunited’ under Palestinian Authority; reiterates call for two-state solution (www.theguardian.com)

In a new op-ed in the Washington Post on Saturday, US president Joe Biden said that the Palestinian Authority should govern Gaza and the West Bank following the war between Israel and Hamas....

Machinist3359,

If someone steals your land, you tend not to want to split it in half. As you Link shows, sentiments are shifting more recently.

Accurately they beleived that a 2 state solution is not possible. Look at the islands created in the west bank by illegal israeli settlments. Going back to 1967 boarders would mean relocating the most radical and conservative israelis.

Frankly a 1 state solution is necessary, one which gives israelis and palestinians equal rights and say in governance. It's everyone's 2nd or 3rd choice, but it's that or genocide of palestinians unfortunately.

Machinist3359,

Cool genocide justification bro. About half of respondents to some poll supported the biggest political force in Palestine.

What if america was being bombed because there are so many republican voters, and that party harbors dispicable terrorists who do mass shootings.

Machinist3359,

Probably a touch bad. Solar is dropping because in key markets (California, EU) house prices are too high, and adding solar is being deprioritized. Plus some saturation in the market among enthusiasts.

That said, maybe the price drop will encourage some more adoption.

Machinist3359,

Its wild how right wing entiries have eachothers back in a way the left rarely does. Even when they fight eachother, it's a tide raising all boats (and drowning innocents).

Machinist3359,

Domestic fascists took some notes from their buddies abroad.

(The note was, "but hamas")

Machinist3359,

Citatiin very much needed, as of a few days ago these claims were not confirmed.

Machinist3359,

Would that it were. Jews benefit from white privilege, however the identity is not just a belief. Antisemitism frames jews as non-white and thus, jews face unique race-like prejudice other white people don't. It's nit like nazis look the other way when a jew converts to Christianity, they see "jewish" as a blood type. Similarly there is nothing real about race, until white supremacy enforces a hierarchy based in it.

(Edit: note, none if this is a defense of the ethnostate of israel)

Machinist3359,

Extremely generous estimate, Hamas is not half of all Palestinian men.

Machinist3359,

The US and UN have used trusted the GHM numbers for decades. Now that there is a genocide they're being questioned.

It also implies some smaller number is more acceptable. What is it? 6000? 4000? 2000? How many dead civilians would you like there to be?

Machinist3359,

According to a source trusted by US and UN officials for decades.

Textbook genocide denial tho, good job. Remember this is who you are in a few years.

Machinist3359,

Bit of a dead end for that energy now though. There were two bites at the apple wither Bernie Sanders, which illustrated the DNC will pill out stops to keep party loyals. So what's left for a mobilized progressive movement? Cant fight in the party, cant fight outside the party.

Machinist3359,

Honestly he's probably going to win anyway. Biden has only courted the centrists whi will vote based on gas prices and inflation. Progressives withdrawing support may at least show the next round we cant be taken for granted.

Machinist3359,

That blame cuts both ways. Biden neglecting the progressive leaders if the party is his own undoing. The right is happy to sink centrists, and thats why the US is drifting so far right.

Machinist3359,

Many folks could reduce meat consumption now as well to mitigate the damages.

Americans have developed a norm of every meal needing meat, when for much of history it was a few times per week.

Machinist3359,

Fun fact, there actually is a rich history of leftist zionism. It looks nothing like today's zionism mind you, but saught to embrace Palestinians and build an interfaith socialist state. Not unproblematic but interesting.

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