Silverseren

@Silverseren@kbin.social

It is not Lemmy or kbin, it is the fediverse.

I don't think many people understand that if they use Lemmy or kbin, they are posting to the fediverse. There are other platforms and will be more to come. Referring to a post on "Lemmy" or "kbin" is like saying you saw a post on your Windows or Mac computer....

Silverseren,

You didn't actually. You posted to Kbin. Because this thread is on Kbin, even if you're reading it on Lemmy. Which is kind of OP's point.

Silverseren,

But you are posting on a Kbin thread right now, not a Lemmy thread. So you're not "on Lemmy World" when you're viewing this thread.

Silverseren,

Mastodon is at least something of a more generalized term at least, because that's referring to hundreds of instances. And it has a specific (Twitter-esque) format that unites them. But Lemmy and Kbin has the same formatting structure (Reddit-esque). Makes me wonder if we need a specific, but generalized term that unites everything in this format.

Silverseren,

Wouldn't every viewed copy anywhere then be a saved copy of the original post? Does that distinction even mean anything when it's still posting specifically to the original instance?

If I reply in a Lemmy.world thread, I'm still posting on Lemmy.world even if I'm viewing from Kbin.social.

As a comparative example to old and dying social media, it would be like finding a link to a celebrity's Twitter comment on Reddit and you saying you saw the person saying that on Reddit, which would be extremely misleading to anyone listening, thinking that the celebrity had posted it on Reddit.

Silverseren,

But the person you were arguing with wasn't arguing with you on Lemmy.world, so that's misleading on where the argument was taking place.

If someone took you at your word and looked on Lemmy.world in specific, they would not be able to find the argument in question, because it was taking place in a Kbin.social thread.

Silverseren,

Though it's not like it matters to most of us if they do reverse course. I already deleted everything on my Reddit account. It's all gone permanently.

Silverseren,

Has there been any political pushback against these laws though from the populace?

Silverseren,

When you're on an instance, instead of clicking the subscribe button on the right hand side, click the circle with a line through it.

Silverseren,

Just for future knowledge then, you can click on the little name of the instance/domain below a post and that'll take you to that same main page you're manually navigating to.

Silverseren,

No judgement here. I just wanted to make sure you knew so you could utilize it in the future.

Are lots of websites really going downhill and/or closing or does it just seem like it to me?

Like many people I'm here because of reddit going to shit. Twitter has increasingly been shit. gycat is shutting down in September. To me it seems like lots of bastions of social media are crumpling, but as a previous active reddit user, I've been personally effected. Is this just a frequency illusion or has something changed...

Silverseren,

It's not even social media alone. The magazine National Geographic had the last of its staff fired last month. Now all of their articles are written by freelancers and there's no longer a physical copy being sold.

Silverseren,

Yeah, Disney is trying to make National Geographic more "profitable".

New, Conservative Push To Weaken Child Labor Protections Is Gaining Steam (talkingpointsmemo.com)

A movement to weaken American child labor protections at the state level began in 2022. By June 2023, Arkansas, Iowa, New Jersey and New Hampshire had enacted this kind of legislation, and lawmakers in at least another eight states had introduced similar measures.

Silverseren,

I suppose it depends. There are plenty of rich people who do actively seem to care and go out of their way to not only donate to charity, but actively get involved in communities and try to improve things. Very clearly putting themselves out there and not for personal fame and prestige.

The big part you have to focus on is whether the charity is being done for tax write-offs or other personal benefits, such as what you see with most conservative rich people like the Kochs.

Of course, no matter how a rich person uses their money, even if they very clearly are spending massive amounts of it on helping others and improving the lives of those around them, they'll still be considered evil just because they are rich.

It's an interesting paradox. For some people who have a very narrow view on the subject, they will only consider a rich person "good" if they make themselves not rich. Entirely so. Of course, such a no longer rich person wouldn't be able to help others at that point.

Silverseren,

I'm reminded of the Food Theory video where they tried to eat a Christmas tree. It's fully doable. But not recommended.

So apparently youtube, or its comment system, is against the fediverse

Over the time new youtube videos crop up talking about reddit, twitch and twitter issues. And in those comment sections I always like to spread the word of alternatives (like the fediverse). But whenever I do, those comments get quietly removed even though they seem to be posted in the first place....

Silverseren,

Yeah, that's always been the problem and it's really annoying when getting into a discussion (or argument) on a scientific topic and you can't link to sources to debunk claims.

Silverseren,

Beehaw isn't as well known in general. It's always the third one mentioned when discussing Lemmy or Kbin.

And Lemmy.ml has been banning people for criticizing China, so...yeah, no one outside of extremist types want to be a part of that.

Silverseren,

Hence why I'm on Kbin. Ernest is so much better as a dev.

Silverseren,

And it's worse than you think. While this is a "bug", it is based on a feature that Elon is actively rolling out that will be rate limiting how many tweets you're allowed to view in a day.

That seems to be where the current issue stems from, likely something where it's looking at the amount you've read in the previous 24 hours.

Silverseren,

He's removed all of the features of Twitter at this point. It no longer is even the site it was created to be.

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