tchambers
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tchambers

@tchambers@kbin.social

Technologist, writer, admin of indieweb.social. Fascinated by how new politics impacts technology and vice versa.

A case for preemptively defederating with Threads

With Meta beginning to test federation, there's a lot of discussion as to whether we should preemptively defederate with Threads. I made a post about the question, and it seems that opinions differ a lot among people on Kbin. There were a lot of arguments for and against regarding ads, privacy, and content quality, but I don't...

FaceDeer,
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I came to the Threadiverse because Reddit was closing its APIs and building the walls higher around its garden.

I will be supremely disappointed if the Threadiverse collectively turns around and does the same thing.

Instances should be defederated when they do something harmful. Preemptively defederating is counterproductive, it gives Meta no incentive to do things right.

/kbin project management costs, financing, future plans

I wrote the first line of code for /kbin on January 14, 2021. Around this time, I started working remotely and decided that the time I used to spend commuting to the office would be devoted to /kbin. Throughout this entire period, /kbin has been a hobby project that I developed in my free time. It was also when Lemmy started...

kbin.social lifecycle: from 181 unique visitors to 2.9M in three months.
ernest,
ernest avatar

Wow ;) I'm incredibly lucky to have come across people like you. The authors of those posts are actually right - managing /kbin is a significant challenge nowadays. It requires extensive knowledge and experience to keep it under control. But also I've never hidden that fact - the information about it is placed at the very top of the repository's readme ;) However, as I mentioned, a lot is changing very quickly https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/122333/Fediverse-won-t-replace-Reddit-as-long-as-Lemmy-is-the#entry-comment-478779. And we're all working hard on it, to improve and automate as many things as possible. Thanks to all of you, I believe I can face it head-on, and together we can create a better place. Better internet. Not just this instance, but cooperation between platforms is the key here.

Unfortunately, there are delays occurring again - I've decided that smooth website operation will be the priority this time. There are approximately 450k tasks waiting in the queue, and everything will be handled, but it will take some time. Today, we're also conducting final tests of the new infrastructure. It's taking a while because we're documenting templates that can later be used by others to create their own instances. I hope these are the last issues we have to endure ;)

Thanks for everything.

symfonystation, to kbin
@symfonystation@phpc.social avatar

Via the Fediverse Report: Lemmy and kbin. https://fediversereport.com/lemmy-and-kbin/

ernest,
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@symfonystation @fediversereport Oh, I need to correct something. My adventure with kbin started much earlier, at the moment when I began remote work and when Lemmy started federation tests. 2023 was the time when I decided to move to and take the project more seriously ;) The full story is available here

https://github.com/ernestwisniewski?tab=overview&from=2021-12-01&to=2021-12-31

dansup, to fediverse
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Really excited for the developer tools I’ve been working on lately, there are a few different tools that will aid in debugging and development of your AP projects!

Eventually I’d like to build a test suite using a corpus of community contributed projects to test compatibility with various projects

It will be open source, and you’ll be able to download single file scripts that you can run locally to test without requiring a prod/tls stack

Look forward to shipping this 😎

dansup,
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I know there is a need for this, and a group that is trying to organize something like this.

Nothing against them, but I think I can built a foundation for this myself without bureaucracy or countless meetings, and then hand it off to them or a trusted fediverse entity.

I’m all for collaboration, but sometimes it’s better to go alone and then release an MVP instead of trying to organize a project with many devs who can’t decide on what lang or code style to use.

hariette,
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Yay, federation! <3

And I'm planning on supporting x-platform ;)

/kbin - a few quick announcements

Good morning! :) Today I want to focus mainly on reviewing the pull requests you've submitted. There are many great things there that will help improve the kbin experience. That's amazing, thank you! I'm also in the final stages of sorting out the infrastructure-related formalities. Soon, the situation with the website's...

tchambers, to RedditMigration

This from @mmasnick gets it exactly right:

"Reddit is discovering the same thing that Twitter is also discovering: when you build a service where the value is all the free content that users provide, you’re going to run into some problems when you suddenly start acting like you 'own' all that, and you feel the need to put up paywalls for access.... at some point those users are going to realize they have the power to go elsewhere."

https://www.techdirt.com/2023/06/13/reddit-blackout-crashes-the-site-as-reddit-users-realize-theyre-in-the-power-position/

sab,
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@fnovd

After using kbin for a few days, I'm confident the alternatives are getting there much faster than one would maybe expect. :)

tchambers, to RedditMigration

Not for nothing, but @minnieo is doing some AMAZING digital organizing for the and the and anyone who cares about either, or the Fediverse writ large, should follow and learn from her.

minnieo,
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@tchambers thank you so much!! i rely totally on the unity of the protesters, i dont lead, WE lead

I put together a guide aimed at Redditors for Kbin and Lemmy! (beehaw.org)

I want to preface, if you see a mistake in the image or have something helpful to add, go right ahead! I still have the layered files for this, so edits can be made very quickly. I chose to handwrite the text to avoid font copyright infringement....

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