gbhnews,
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👋 Hello ! I'm going into a meeting at 4ET to talk about our newsroom's social media options.

If you think our station and other stations should have a Mastodon server or a broader presence in the , pls boost this post. If you have thoughts, please reply, I want to hear them!

RaySF,
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@gbhnews
I'm not an American but all decent news services should have a presence on Mastodon.
Many of us use it as a news aggregator.

cragsand,

@gbhnews
A feature that's been missing for Mastodon has been fulltext searching of posts, aka fuzzy search. :fedi:

Searching is mainly done via hashtags so a common trend is to add the relevant tags at the end of posts.

It's a bit of a controversial topic to have the content of posts be searchable on Mastodon, but I'm sure with proper consent options to opt-in or opt-out that hurdle will be solved with good implementation. The discussion lives on here: https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/21627

There are exceptions though using custom implementation patches serverside like this one on universeodon.com written by clever people like VyrCossont https://github.com/VyrCossont/mastodon/pull/8

For news based instances you really do want some forms of better searching like this implemented.

Welcome to the fediverse and best of luck! :elmo_fire:

edendestroyer,

@cragsand @gbhnews Please understand that the reason behind it being controversial is the gross abuse of it by nazis and bigots against marginalized groups of people. The is better without full-text search, lets not ruin it peace.

cragsand,

@edendestroyer @gbhnews
That's why consent is important! Those who don't wish to be searchable should be respected to remain so and instance admins decide if they wish it disabled by default.
https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/pull/23808

strypey,
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@cragsand
> That's why consent is important!

Agreed. @anildash wrote a great post that sketched out a way of doing opt-in search in the 'verse:
https://anildash.com/2023/01/16/a-fediverse-search/

@edendestroyer

hackbyte,

@strypey @edendestroyer @anildash @cragsand If you want your public posts searchable, allow google and other search engines to index you.

There is still no need for a intrinsic global search within the ......

strypey,
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@hackbyte
I think what you meant to say was...

> [I still have] no need for a intrinsic global search within the fediverse

You seem to be mistaking your needs for the needs of everyone else who might use the software. I can guarantee you those two things are not equivalent :)

@edendestroyer @anildash @cragsand

jakob,

@strypey

Federated searchengines... do you know ?

Each instanz should run it's own yacy-Instance too. This should be configured this way, that it indexes fulltext the whole instance (or all fedivers-services of a domain with holds more than one service)
You can find the whole fulltext-index of the whole fediverse via federation of yacy...

several@edendestroyer@masto.ai @anildash @cragsand

strypey,
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@jakob
> You can find the whole fulltext-index of the whole fediverse via federation of yacy...

This is specifically an anti-goal of user-respecting fediverse search. The piece I linked by @anildash covers some of the reasons why, it's well worth a read. They key point is, as @cragsand put it...

> consent is important!

But, maybe a YACY bot could be a way to implement Anil's proposal? Would be an interesting experiment, and as he says, I'd follow one to make my posts searchable!

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    @GhostOnTheHalfShell
    > https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ahlm6gIsBzo

    Beautifully put, if somewhat US-centric. Is this on PeerTube as well?

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    @GhostOnTheHalfShell
    > Video is costly to support, so I've been quite hesitant to impose that on others

    Fair enough. It's cool that PT uses WebTorrent to keep those costs down, but I'm guessing a PT server is still more expensive to run than a Mastodon server.

    strypey,
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    When I first found out PeerTube was using WebTorrent, I was excited by the possibility that it could play videos from a normal BitTorrent swarm. That way, video creators could store their videos on a few home computers instead of expensive S3 "cloud" storage. Turned out there were some difficulties in getting BT clients to add enough support for WebTorrent to make that work. I haven't checked for any progress on that for a while.

    @GhostOnTheHalfShell

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