Fediverse

rolle,
@rolle@mementomori.social avatar

Former CEO of Twitter wanted to build a social protocol no-one can control, like SMTP or HTTP for social media. Bluesky’s ATProto was supposed to be an open source protocol that Twitter could eventually utilize, but then Musk happened and Bluesky started taking it to the wrong direction and everything fell apart in Dorsey’s mind.

A very revealing interview. I now see even more future in W3C’s ActivityPub.

https://www.piratewires.com/p/interview-with-jack-dorsey-mike-solana

#X

rolle,
@rolle@mementomori.social avatar

@gruff @reiver Wow, this is the first time I hear about Farcaster.

So… now we have 4 protocols which all try to achieve the ”truly decentralized social web”:

  • ActivityPub
  • ATProto
  • Farcaster
  • Nostr

What a mess :blob_smile_sweat:

rolle,
@rolle@mementomori.social avatar

@lari Perhaps indeed some egoistic nonsense like that.

smallcircles,
@smallcircles@social.coop avatar

Hey, which app allows an to be used as a ?

https://social.coop/@smallcircles/112414539433136490

#❓

tyil,

@smallcircles

thus far only streams app supports them

Seems to work on .> They can convey meaning well

If everyone agrees on the meaning of the picture, sure, but this is not the case. Various emojis can have vastly different meanings to different groups of people. If you're also going to add in custom emojis this is going to be even worse, you're throwing around emojis that are literally undefined by the majority of the world population.

With your example "boosts appreciated", making a hashtag BoostsAppreciated is clear, concise, and accessible to all. I've never even heard of a dedicated emoji for this, and if you suddenly started to use those I'd have to wonder what you're trying to convey, and use the alt-text to actually get anywhere. Seems like more hassle than just using text in the first place.> They can be used in addition to other textual hashtags

This is true, but do you expect people to just use double the hashtags going forward? One with readable text, the other in image form which you then have to hope works in every context?> textual hashtags [...] aren't always as accessible in their meaning either

Everyone can make "bad" hashtags, but I don't think making the pool worse is going to improve that. If any, it'd make it worse, now people can make bad hashtags with both text and images.> There are cultures around emoji use, that give meaning in certain contexts, and those cultures are part of social fabric and cohesion then

That sounds like a rather big assumption. Are you aware of any cultures that are currently unable to use hashtags, that have a strict need to use basically any image they can think of? To me this sounds incredibly unlikely, especially in the context of the .

smallcircles,
@smallcircles@social.coop avatar

@tyil fair points. I am suggesting emoji should be usable as hashtags, but not prescribing how they are best used. Like for public square broadcasts.. probably not so appropriate.

I have use cases for them, and they are in the realm of "personal social networking" where people know the context and meaning.

nilesh,
@nilesh@fosstodon.org avatar

Has anyone built something like "Login with / " as social login / oauth identity? perhaps?

liaizon,
@liaizon@wake.st avatar

@nilesh yeah there are many projects that have implemented parts of this. But the issue is that you each part of the fediverse does account auth differently, cause that part is not part of ActivityPub. @dansup built a login with Mastodon feature into @pixelfed recently.

attac63, French
@attac63@piaille.fr avatar

🚨Le dernier épisode du #GrainDeSon est disponible sur #PeerTube🔴

🎙️On continue le cycle sur le #Travail avec @Solidaires63 et #FSU63

▶️ ep3: Le rapport au travail
➡️ https://peertube.stream/w/cGoymYUg5TKYDbap8gR5k1

dispo en #podcast sur @SpectrePodcasts

🎧 https://spectremedia.org/le-grain-de-son/

et depuis notre site:

▶️https://attac63.site.attac.org/podcasts/le-grain-de-son/ (rubrique)
▶️https://attac63.site.attac.org/podcasts/le-grain-de-son/article/c-est-quoi-c-travail (cycle "travail")

^^ @Solidaires63
@Attac
@unionsolidaires
@Khrys

John_Livingston, French
@John_Livingston@mamot.fr avatar

Questions aux admins qui utilisent le plugin :

Est ce que ça vous ai déjà arrivé de jouer avec les nombreux paramètres du plugin, puis de ne plus savoir quelles étaient les valeurs par défaut ?

Si oui, quelle solution aimeriez-vous ?

Que les valeurs par défaut soient documentées?
Un bouton "reset" ? Si oui, doit-il tout réinitialiser, ou doit-il garder certains paramètres (comme les ports, notamment pour celleux qui host plusieurs Peertube sur une même instance...).
Autre?

aldi80s,
@aldi80s@mastodon.social avatar

Have to say:

I like / instances: CDRom Tokyo and MiniDisc Tokyo. All because of the "retro" interface and the names.

However, what frustrates me a lot is the speed issue: cannot load the timeline, it get stuck with no updated for many days or weeks. Takes too long time to post any thing, even just plain text.

I hope it will be solved in a near future because they will be my favorite sites.

I said.

P.D.

A big hello to the developers, I respect them so much !

jnv,
@jnv@fosstodon.org avatar

@aldi80s wonder what hardware they’re using, might be the issue.

aldi80s,
@aldi80s@mastodon.social avatar

@jnv Yes, true. I just hope that they will improve it. I will try to be patient...

stefan,
@stefan@stefanbohacek.online avatar

Good news, users!

You can now try out my projects, including https://data.stefanbohacek.dev/projects/fediverse

experimentmapass,
stefan,
@stefan@stefanbohacek.online avatar

@experimentmapass Ah, I was able to reproduce that on another Friendica instance, let me look into it.

Thank you for flagging this!

demiurg,
@demiurg@fosstodon.org avatar

I have the feeling that Activity Pub and other new 'protocols' have a different meaning of the term 'protocol'. I mean these APIs and services would not be handled by the IETF. Or do I miss something?

smallcircles,
@smallcircles@social.coop avatar

@demiurg

Imho AP serves more as a kind of "protocol framework", and it still must be completed to be fully production-ready. Current early adopters are all working with alpha versions and flavours thereof.

Linux,
@Linux@sakurajima.social avatar

The reality is, you always take a chance when contributing to an open source development or projects. Just because you made a contribution, does not mean you own the project or can decide the path that project takes. Those of us who donated understood the risk (or at least, I hope most people did).

That said, when someone takes a proactive driving stance claiming they will deliver, you kind of hope you can take them for their word. And expecting the main website to be online is not a big ask, especially when that serves as a gateway for people to learn about and use the project you are funding. That, after all, was the reason I donated.

Linux,
@Linux@sakurajima.social avatar

@ozzy Sharkey Development can go F themselves, if that is the story being told. 😄

ozzy,

@Linux no story
I am on the Sharkey discord and your attitude sux to put it mildly

gavcloud,
@gavcloud@sonomu.club avatar

Hello :fediverse: … I am testing out a beta comment system integrated into my wiki. Add a comment to my latest music release Trois Esquisses by adding a comment to this post

Here is the 🌱 digital garden link
https://gavart.ist/#Trois%20Esquisses%20de%202014

liaizon,
@liaizon@wake.st avatar

@gavcloud hello gav!

liaizon,
@liaizon@wake.st avatar

@gavcloud wow this is great! The first fediverse @TiddlyWiki fedi integration!?

dansup,
@dansup@mastodon.social avatar

Anyone building a federated Stack Overflow?

hobs,
@hobs@mstdn.social avatar

@smallcircles
I remember the one you're talking about but can't find it.
Codidact seems close, FOSS and self-hosted: https://github.com/codidact/qpixel

This Django package for managing a QA Forum might be useful:
https://djangopackages.org/packages/p/askbot/

Some components of original SE are OSS, like the useless .NET redis client:
https://github.com/StackExchange

@dansup

smallcircles,
@smallcircles@social.coop avatar

@hobs @dansup

Ohh, those are nice finds.

Looking in the SE github org, there's also their Design System, and it is MIT-licensed.

https://github.com/StackExchange/Stacks

That can be a) giving a good headstart in designing an alternative, and b) depending on how it is exactly licensed, be great to "fork" the brand assets (if they are also just MIT, they maybe aren't protected as they usually are).

zsoltsandor,
@zsoltsandor@social.lol avatar

I like @Mastodon, however I am also flirting with the could-have-been, @movim as a platform to discover. If only had proper compatibility.

lil5,
@lil5@fosstodon.org avatar

@Goffi @zsoltsandor @Mastodon @movim why did you choose mercurial?

Goffi,
@Goffi@mastodon.social avatar

@lil5 @zsoltsandor @Mastodon @movim why not? It's good, it's doing the job well, and commands are often intuitive. Also I've started the project in 2008.

crossgolf_rebel,

Die unvollständige Geschichte des Fediverse - GNU/Linux.ch

Gestern lief eine Aufstellung der "historischen" Schritte, die zum Entstehen des Fediverse geführt haben, durch meine Timeline. Lest selbst, wie es sich in den letzten 15 Jahren entwickelt hat.

https://gnulinux.ch/die-unvollstaendige-geschichte-des-fediverse

crossgolf_rebel,

@kapuzenhund bitte, und dabei noch nicht ganz vollständig. Viele Projekte sind ja gar nicht aufgeführt, die auch Teil des Fediverse sind

kubikpixel,
@kubikpixel@chaos.social avatar

@crossgolf_rebel @kapuzenhund hach ja und den Vorteil vom Fediverse den Medien beizubringen (ausser die schon da sind) ist anscheinend schwierig. Die sehen Dezentralisierung so wie die Gedanken (und Aufwand) zu ändern als ein grosses Hinderniss, das sie nicht verstehen (wollen) weil die NUR an den Anzahlen sich klammern.

:mastodon: 👉 https://chaos.social/@kubikpixel/109403519629617819

Linux,
@Linux@sakurajima.social avatar

I now have a "sponsor" badge. - How?

No matter, how you connect to the Fediverse, be if, for example, Misskey, Sharkey, Ice Shrimp, Mastodon, PeerTube, Pixelfed, Kbin, or by other means, the Fediverse instance you're using cost money. In the real world, web hosting, bandwidth, and storage space cost, money. And the more members who use and join your Fediverse instance (server), the more resources and the most it cost.

I earned by badge, by reaching out to my administrator, and helping them by donating. And while if it was not required to make a donation or regular contribution, I like using the Fediverse. It is ad-free and decentralized, meaning, someone like Elon Musk, cannot change things for everyone, everywhere, solely on their latest mood swing. So I made the choice to help fund my corner of the collective social media network, known as the Fediverse.

chikorita157, (edited )
@chikorita157@sakurajima.moe avatar

@Linux Also, that role also grant a doubled drive space (4 GB) on Misskey, as we are required to set a limit. For regular users, it’s 2GB).

(note: Drive is for public files only, as uploaded files are publicly viewable)

offline,
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Berlin Federated Network Exploration Circle
:win3_terminal: :flowersparkle: :bluesparkle:
a new [ meetup starting May 19th at 7pm]

  • @raucao will talk about how Kosmos co-operatively hosts all kinds of federated services.
  • @dantescanline will explore the anarchist media landscape in the fediverse.
  • @liaizon will discuss the semantic boundaries of the term ‘fediverse.'
  • @twilliability will give a presentation of a tool they built called RSS Parrot.

https://offline.place/events/2024/05/19/berlin-federated-network-exploration-circle

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