@daringfireball Honestly, I don’t blame the guy at all. He’s an actor portraying a role, not an evangelist taking a stance on company ethics.
It’s like people getting mad at James Gunn for going from Marvel to DC. These guys aren’t picking sides, they’re just doing a job that pays the bills 🤷♂️
The WWDC meta this year really sounds like a year ago Apple's execs had an 'oh shit.' moment with ChatGPT and then instructed every single product team to drop everything and brainstorm some way of using LLMs to power new features whether they like it or not. I just wonder how much of the ‘original' plan for iOS 18 was shelved in the process. I fully expect iPad to get virtually no improvements this year, as all of that energy was already pivoted to visionOS before AI came about
@stroughtonsmith Guess the best case scenario might be that visionOS improvements eventually trickle back down to iPadOS, like iOS improvements trickle down to tvOS and macOS? 🙏
@christianselig A colleague told me recently that the problem with full self driving is that the long tail of strange traffic situations are cases that, by definition, don’t appear in the training set often… so you can’t solve for the last 1% by doing more of the same stuff that worked well for the first 99%. And I just… 🤯
(also, apologies if this was common knowledge for the rest of the world, it was news to me 😂)
@baldur Keeping aside the copyright discussion and AI ethics for a moment, isn’t selling an AI-generated work and passing it off as genuine simply consumer deception and hence already illegal?
Even long before AI, if I would have made a fake Van Gogh print myself and passed it off as a real one, I’d be in jail, no?
@davemark You are 100% correct. Google is changing itself from the indexer that will point people to the rest of the web into the big blender that will digest everything and vomit it back out at the users request. Not a good evolution imo 😕
@twostraws Yeah, that's a scarily confident and utterly wrong response. It's like a self-righteous boomer and an overconfident intern at the same time 😅
I know people like to think iPadOS 'forked' from iOS when it was renamed a few years back, but it really didn’t. If you install Xcode, both iPhone and iPad simulators run out of the exact same OS root. It's the same set of apps, the same SpringBoard — it just decides which features you get at runtime based on screen size and a feature map. That's not a fork; the name essentially means nothing. A brand new $4,000 iPad runs the same OS as your six year old phone
A dedicated, focused hardware team knocking it out of the park, joined at the hip with an OS team treating this as a side hustle and naturally prioritising the backlog towards 90% of their customer base (iPhone users) and 9% of the remainder (casual iPad users), over the last 1% (pro iPad users)? Feels to me like putting iPadOS under its own product ownership would go a long way towards fixing all this.
@davemark@joannastern My guess: the first isn't going to happen because it would essentially allow sideloading on iPad and risk undercutting the app store revenue model.
The second isn't going to happen because it would take tremendous resources and those are all dedicated to visionOS at this point.
My "hail mary" hope is that investments on visionOS might trickle down into iPadOS. After all, a Vision Pro and an iPad Pro are both pretty expensive pro-oriented devices 🤷♂️
(btw I deleted my original reply when I realized I wasn't saying anything you didn't already know or that others hadn't already said, apologies for orphaning your reponse in the process 😅 )
@craiggrannell Yeah I really like the atmosphere. It doesn't have the scale of old Twitter, but that's a good thing.
Btw, a company I worked for a while back had a fraud case where someone in AP had put a personal account nr of theirs on a supplier record they thought was no longer being used. They were siphoning off small sums.
When the actual supplier invoiced something again at some point, they complained they weren't receiving the money and that got the ball rolling. So keep at it 😅
@cdoncarroll@stroughtonsmith Agree. I think they genuinely (but misguidedly) believe that keeping the limits they’re putting on the iPadOS are what’s best for the overall iPad experience across consumer + professional users. Not because they want to protect MacBook sales.
Heck, if they could flip half of those MacBook users over to iPadOS and get more money from accessory sales that’d be more money for them 😂
The problem with the iPad as as many have pointed out is that the software hampers what it can do unless you’re willing to contort yourself into a very specific workflow. For most casual users those limitations aren’t an issue and the advantages of the form factor outweigh the deficits. But when you charge MBPro money for a device the trade-offs sting. As @jsnell says, the best solution would be to just let us virtualize macOS on an iPad Pro when using it in certain modes https://sixcolors.com/post/2024/05/the-ipad-pro-is-no-longer-the-future-so-whats-next/
Interesting to see how furiously angry people are with the new Apple iPad Pro ad. So many have responded to it as an ad that’s destroying creativity and replacing it with digital. My take is that it’s about how Apple has crammed possibilities into an ‘impossibly thin’ device. But the execution of said ad leaves a lot to be desired.
Here’s hoping Ken Segall has something to say about it. (And I’m sure he must. Whether he’ll share it, mind.)
Ufff, the #Apple#iPad advert, so tone deaf for our times.
Wrong on so many counts, celebrating the destruction of human creativity and artistry, and contrary to all the R-principles ... rethink, reduce, reuse, repair, recover, recycle, refurbish, remanufacture, repurpose, reclaim, retrofit, retro-cool, revival, reading the room ...
... all under the heavy, grey-steeled palm of an uncaring machine.
@gruber Would love to hear your take on Ternus's statement that with the new Magic Keyboard, "The entire experience feels just like using a MacBook". I may be reading too much into it, but that sort of sounds like some major changes may be coming on the iPadOS side at WWDC?
I just can't remember hearing them explicitly referring to an iPad + keyboard combo as "just like using a Mac" in any prior years.