kevin, to web
@kevin@dice.camp avatar

When I see talk of how bad search is and the need for human curated indexes I remember web directories and dmoz. I contributed as many links as I could to that thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMOZ

Linux, to DuckDuckGo
@Linux@sakurajima.social avatar

Today, I learned you can exclude a domain from DuckDuckGo search results by using:

Your search -site: Domain to exclude

For example:

Anime -site:youtube.com

seanbala, to privacy
@seanbala@mas.to avatar

Got a question about . I know has robust privacy settings. I was wondering about the underlying protection of the system from massive data scrapers. Are there underlying protections built into Mastodon to prevent theft of data or the upload of data onto a third party website? On another vein, is there any way to limit your account reach in outside engines like ? Does Mastodon have limited interaction with outside search? Thanks!

TechDesk, (edited ) to OpenAI
@TechDesk@flipboard.social avatar

Google has dominated the search market for more than two decades, accounting for as much as 90% of all global searches. But OpenAI could be about to take on Google at its own game, with the launch of a new search engine based on ChatGPT tech.

Rumors began when a domain name and security certificate for search.chatgpt.com was found, with an AI influencer later hinting an announcement was coming on 9 May. Here’s more from Tom's Guide.

https://flip.it/S51yPB

#OpenAI #ChatGPT #Google #Search #AI

hazz223, to DuckDuckGo
@hazz223@mstdn.social avatar

Not sure if it's just me, but there is something quite wrong with this morning!
Results don't seem to be showing up for even the most basic queries.

stevenbodzin, to random
@stevenbodzin@thepit.social avatar

They are now going to liquidate Vice Media. https://cases.stretto.com/vice/court-docket/#search

strypey, to til
@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz avatar

about ;

"Independent, Uncensored, Private Search"

... using its own index, not Goggle, Bing, or Yandex:

https://rightdao.com/

to @Seirdy for maintaining this page on web search engines;

https://seirdy.one/posts/2021/03/10/search-engines-with-own-indexes/

astian, to privacy
@astian@mastodon.social avatar

AstianGO, our uncensored and privacy-friendly search engine, arrives in Midori Browser for Android, as the default browser.

https://astiango.co

balterwenjamin42, to Vivaldi
@balterwenjamin42@mastodon.social avatar

Trying to set up Kagi.com as default search engine in Vivaldi. Pasted in the session link from Kagi in the search settings of Vivaldi but whenever I type in Vivaldi’s search field or search (Ctrl + T and term) I’m just redirected to Kagi.com, no search results show up?

Nincowpoop, to DuckDuckGo
@Nincowpoop@mastodon.online avatar

I know that I am not the first to bring this up, but #DuckDuckGo is getting more useless by the day. I really try hard to not support fascist billionaires where I can, but the % of times I get useless responses from DDG and have to use Google is now close to 80%.

#search #duckduckgo

guyjantic, to DuckDuckGo
@guyjantic@c.im avatar

Feature suggestion for or other engines: let me downvote results.

There is just so fucking much utter garbage, and the people pushing it have (apparently) effective SEO. Let me click a button saying "never allow this domain in my search results ever again."

remixtures, to ai Portuguese
@remixtures@tldr.nettime.org avatar

: "There seem to be clear indications of a novelty factor at work. And while novelty in and of itself is not a bad thing, if it isn’t followed with a consistent behavior change, we can’t really call it a trend.

Take the above Bing.com numbers for instance. If we credit the inclusion of AI search tools on the platform as the cause of the unique user bump, it would seemingly serve to solidify the predicted 25% drop. Yet when we consulted our panel data further, we found that only between 4% and 9% of users used Bing Chat (their AI agent) in any given month during 2023. What’s more, of those that did use it, only two to four searches were conducted over the ensuing month.

Which brings up an even more surprising finding.

While all of the traditional search engines had repeated searches from each user over the course of a month, the AI chatbots all displayed initial enthusiasm, followed by a steep decline in usage." https://datos.live/predicted-25-drop-in-search-volume-remains-unclear/

remixtures, to news Portuguese
@remixtures@tldr.nettime.org avatar

: "Our investigation found that fact-checks enjoy greater visibility in Google Web Search compared to the articles they seek to correct, both in terms of frequency of appearance and their placement within the SERP rankings. Specifically, our study shows fact-checks rank higher than problematic content across five topical keywords groups, Covid-19, climate change, the war in Ukraine, U.S. liberals and U.S. elections, except in contested stories related to the war in Ukraine, where articles about U.S. bio-labs share equal prominence with their corresponding fact-checks. The findings imply Google moderation effects, as fact-checking content is more prominent given (nearly) equal levels of optimisation. It also implies that fact-checks are generally more prominent for audiences searching for problematic content, though both often appear in the same SERP. Navigational queries (e.g., searching for the name of a source and that content) reduce moderation effects." https://dl.acm.org/doi/abs/10.1145/3614419.3644017

jonny, to DuckDuckGo
@jonny@neuromatch.social avatar

Im as anti-"AI" as the next person, but I think its important to keep in mind the larger strategic picture of "AI" w.r.t. #search when it comes to #DuckDuckGo - both have the problem of inaccurate information, mining the commons, etc. But Google's use of LLMs in search is specifically a bid to cut the rest of the internet out of information retrieval and treat it merely as a source of training data - replacing traditional search with #LLM search. That includes a whole ecosystem of surveillance and enclosure of information systems including assistants, chrome, android, google drive/docs/et al, and other vectors.

DuckDuckGo simply doesnt have the same market position to do that, and their system is set up as just an allegedly privacy preserving proxy. So while I think more new search engines are good and healthy, and LLM search is bad and doesnt work, I think we should keep the bigger picture in mind to avoid being reactionary, and I dont think the mere presence of LLM search is a good reason to stop using it.

More here: https://jon-e.net/surveillance-graphs/#the-near-future-of-surveillance-capitalism-knowledge-graphs-get-chatbots

#SurveillanceGraphs

exador23, to DuckDuckGo
@exador23@m.ai6yr.org avatar

Why does give so many results to ? and ? And is there any way to change that?

I want a link to the organization that did the journalism, not some scraping site where I can't trust that the link won't go away at some point.

remixtures, to ai Portuguese
@remixtures@tldr.nettime.org avatar

: "For years, people who have found Google search frustrating have been adding “Reddit” to the end of their search queries. This practice is so common that Google even acknowledged the phenomenon in a post announcing that it will be scraping Reddit posts to train its AI. And so, naturally, there are now services that will poison Reddit threads with AI-generated posts designed to promote products.

A service called ReplyGuy advertises itself as “the AI that plugs your product on Reddit” and which automatically “mentions your product in conversations naturally.” Examples on the site show two different Redditors being controlled by AI posting plugs for a text-to-voice product called “AnySpeech” and a bot writing a long comment about a debt consolidation program called Debt Freedom Now." https://www.404media.co/ai-is-poisoning-reddit-to-promote-products-and-game-google-with-parasite-seo/

StillIRise1963, to random
@StillIRise1963@mastodon.world avatar

I think we can now stop saying “google it” when looking for info. No one will find it there.

98Percent,
@98Percent@mastodon.nz avatar

@Oggie @StillIRise1963 I have given up on Google search. Now using DuckDuckGo and Startpage, which also seems to work well.

Luke, to internet
@Luke@typo.social avatar
Luke,
@Luke@typo.social avatar

Another, even better, piece about the state of the web:

https://www.noemamag.com/we-need-to-rewild-the-internet/

via the powerful Manual Moreale:
https://manuelmoreale.com

#rewild #rewilding #blog #resilience #sotw #StateOfTheWeb #search #internet

Luke,
@Luke@typo.social avatar

…put another pot on the stove, it's a long one…

☕️🍵🫖🧉

#Fallout #rewild #rewilding #infrastructure #blog #resilience #sotw #StateOfTheWeb #search #internet #WalledGarden

Taffer, to random
@Taffer@mastodon.gamedev.place avatar

Going to try this open source search engine for a bit at work, see how it does: https://clew.se/

flamed, to SmallWeb
@flamed@social.lol avatar

Here's a collection of search engines that aren't Google, Bing, DDG, or Brave: https://flamedfury.com/links/#search

astian, to privacy
@astian@mastodon.social avatar

Committed to privacy, at AstianGO we do not track you, because in Astian the product is not you.

https://astiango.co

Taffer, to random
@Taffer@mastodon.gamedev.place avatar

I found this really great app for identifying duplicate images, Czkawka: https://github.com/qarmin/czkawka

It does a bunch of other things (finding incorrect file extensions, finding broken files, etc.) and is ridiculously fast.

I wanted to write it down because I can never remember the name (Polish for "hiccup")!

openwebsearcheu, to random German
@openwebsearcheu@suma-ev.social avatar

📙Weekend Reading Material for Research Enthusiasts! 😃
The Special Issue on „Re-orienting search engine research in information science” is out!

Lots of reading material about – including an article that many OWS.EU consortium members co-wrote!

Find the full issue:
https://asistdl.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/toc/23301643/2024/75/5

And find the OWS.EU contribution here:
Impact and development of an Open Web Index for open web search (Michael Granitzer et al.).
https://asistdl.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/asi.24818

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