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Sylver, to worldnews in US airman dies after setting himself on fire outside Israeli embassy

I wish to share my most sincere gratitude and love with the service member and their family. According to the article this is the second self immolation outside an Israeli embassy in the US.

Israel is committing genocide, and the US is complicit. Don’t let anyone forget that.

ULS,

Can anyone Eli5 us and Israel connection.

I don’t know much about politics.

AnotherAttorney,

The U.S. funds and supplies a sizeable, if not the vast majority, of the Israel military, and has increased that funding and supply since the conflict with Palestine.

DdCno1,

This is completely wrong. US military support for Israel is less than 4 billion per year on average, which is about 15 percent.

AnotherAttorney,

You’re overlooking the $15 billion aid package we just cleared for them…

DdCno1,

I did not and don't move the goal posts. Given that the war has cost Israel 60 billion so far, additional goods worth 15 billion would be 20% of the total cost of the war. Still nowhere near the vast majority.

Most arms used by Israel are indigenous, both developed and produced locally, because 1) they learned the hard way that they can not rely on foreign support and 2) they have very specific needs that weapons developed for the needs of other armies and regions often don't fulfill. That's why they have their own tanks, for example.

AnotherAttorney,

US military support for Israel is less than 4 billion per year on average

You pretty clearly did overlook $15 billion bro, lol.

Given that the war has cost Israel 60 billion so far, additional goods worth 15 billion would be 20%

The 2023 military budget for Israel was roughly $17 billion, which would make this nearly 100% of it. I cannot find the 2024 budget, it may not be published yet. I have no clue where you’re getting $60 billion, that’s nowhere in any budget.

I’m guessing you’re Israeli. Sorry your country simps to us so much I guess.

DdCno1,

I said on average. It should be pretty obvious what I meant by that.

The 2023 military budget was the budget that was passed by the Knesset in 2022, before they knew they would be fighting a war. That's the cost of a having an army of this caliber in relative peace time. Figures of 50 to 60 billion are estimates that are floating around in the media right now for the cost of the war. Israel has mobilized many more men and women than in peace time and is obviously using far more ammunition, fuel, food, etc. and using up far more equipment than during peace time, which alone results in significant costs, even excluding the effects on the economy, like hundreds of thousands of workers not being at their jobs.

Your understanding of this matter and your reading comprehension are very poor. The US aid is not in the form of money, but instead items like ammunition, bombs, guidance kits, missiles for the Iron Dome, etc. Since the majority of Israel's equipment, like I stated, is domestically produced and since they have a large conscription army (which needs to be housed, fed and paid), how can goods that the US does not produce (like for example Merkava tanks or Tavor rifles) make up the majority of Israel's military spending through aid? Think about this for a second before writing another poorly thought out comment.

And no, I'm not Israeli.

AnotherAttorney,

Figures of 50 to 60 billion are estimates that are floating around in the media right now for the cost of the war.

… so, not the budget. You’re referring to estimates for the eventual total cost of the war. Good work Einstein.

Israel has mobilized many more men and women than in peace time and is obviously using far more ammunition, fuel, food, etc. and using up far more equipment than during peace time, which alone results in significant costs

Right — but that’s not the military budget, which is what this whole thread was about, and what you originally claimed to be addressing.

The US aid is not in the form of money

That $15 billion funding package I mentioned earlier, as well as the annual $4 billion standard funding support, would say otherwise.

And no, I'm not Israeli.

Doubt fam

DarkMessiah,

The US is funding Israel to be their minion in the Middle East. A lot like China and North Korea, now that I think about it. Israel has a bit more autonomy than North Korea, though.

jonne,

There’s no way China would just let North Korea do anything like Israel is doing. The difference is that Israel has outsize political influence in the US through AIPAC and the like.

MsPenguinette, (edited )

Isn’t North Korea doing simular levels of atrocities to their own people?

frostysauce,

And China is involved in its own genocide.

jonne,

They’re not bombing them, it’s ‘just’ gulags and death penalties.

sadreality,

The communist style abuse.

We in the west prefer fire and fury typa ops against "enemies of the people"

chillhelm,

Yes.

purahna,
@purahna@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Whether or not this is true, which I’m not going to address, DPRK is 1) not a settler colonial state, 2) not doing apartheid, and 3) not in the process of growing their own borders into neighboring territory, which are three very large and important differences to consider no matter how you feel about DPRK

driving_crooner,
@driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

Question: Have North Korea ever shoot a Chinese military ship, killing 34 crew members and wounding 171 more?

Quastamaza,

OT: what’s with all these “removed by a mod” posts I keep seeing? I thought lemmy was an anti censorship effort, was I wrong?

InEnduringGrowStrong,
@InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works avatar

I thought lemmy was an anti censorship effort, was I wrong?

Different places censor different things

assassinatedbyCIA,

The middle east is an extremely geopolitically important region for the US because of all of the oil it has. The US therefore wants a country that it can use as basically a base of operation and client state in the region. Israel as a european settler colonials state is the client state that America wants because it largely is culturally closer to the US than the surrounding arab states. Consequently, the US defends Israel to the hilt regardless of the constant stream of atrocities that it commits.

PowerCrazy,

Perhaps that was the initial impetus, but it is also 50 years out of date. Now-a-days, Israel is self-propagating even if they had zero strategic value for US interests, they are the number one donator’s to many top Republican and Democrat campaign funds. In addition they represent a useful tax-haven for all the “high-tech” industries in the US. They are allow by law to develop for the MIC both hardware and software without being restricted by the usual import/export restrictions for national defense. Israel is considered international so corporations aren’t taxed on income from Israel, and Israel will pay large subsidies to American corporations to open offices there. Of course those subsidies are just money the US Government pays to Israel anyway. It’s grotesque, and even if Israel weren’t an apartheid state, the incestuous relationship the country has built with the US ruling class should give anyone with morals pause.

SineSwiper, (edited )
@SineSwiper@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Both of these takes are extremely cynical, and should be taken with a grain of salt. Israel’s actions with Gaza and the extremely right-wing PM in charge should not define Israel as a country and the reasons why the US has them as an ally, just like how Trump does not define the US as a country.

To be clear, I’m not suggesting that they shouldn’t be criticized. But, let’s criticize the actions, instead of making up reasons that the US is involved with Israel in the first place.

PowerCrazy,

You mean actions like being the number one bipartisan campaign contributors to a large portion of American Leadership? You mean spending more on lobbying then any other industry? You mean Israel isn’t a tax shelter for American Firms that are normally restricted to being located on US Soil? What exactly am I “making up” here?

Are these numbers fake?


<span style="color:#323232;">Biden, Joe (D) 		$5,223,313  
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Menendez, Robert (D-NJ) 	New Jersey 	$2,500,005  
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Clinton, Hillary (D-NY) 	New York 	$2,358,112  
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Kirk, Mark (R-IL) 	Illinois 	$2,294,469  
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Lieberman, Joe (D-CT) 	Connecticut 	$1,996,274  
</span><span style="color:#323232;">McConnell, Mitch (R-KY) 	Kentucky 	$1,953,160  
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Schumer, Charles E (D-NY) 	New York 	$1,725,324  
</span><span style="color:#323232;">McCain, John (R-AZ) 	Arizona 	$1,494,066
</span>
sadreality,

I did not realize this happened in the US.

News coverage of this is super sus

iAmTheTot,
iAmTheTot avatar

News coverage of this is super sus

How so? Every article I read mentioned where it happened as well as US organizations performing the investigations.

octopus_ink,

News coverage of this is super sus

I only learned about the first one due to this discussion we’re in right here.

apnews.com/…/israeli-consulate-self-immolation-at…

sadreality,

same tbh. i think i vaguely remember about first one but kind just slid out.

was first one in the US too?

can,

Wow, I thought it was another story about the first one.

Mbourgon, to worldnews in India shuts schools as Delhi sizzles at 47°C

116.6F. Damn.

tobogganablaze,

That’s 37.9 °Ré.

Aurix,

Now I can relate.

schizoidman,

320.15 K

plasticcheese,

0.34 of a McDonalds Apple Pie

lemmyman,

576 rankine

ArugulaZ, to world in Singaporean teen who identified as white supremacist placed under ISA restrictions for far-right extremism
ArugulaZ avatar

Self-hate is one hell of a drug.

poopkins, (edited ) to worldnews in Live: Japan Airlines plane on fire at Tokyo's Haneda airport - CNA

Last updated Jan 2, 11:20 UTC; this post is superseded here

JAL flight 516 (registration JA13XJ) Airbus A350-900 from Sapporo to Tokyo’s Haneda Airport collided while landing with a coast guard aircraft JA722A De Havilland Canada DHC-8-315Q MPA “Dash-8” that belonged to Haneda Air Base, which was awaiting departure to Niigata with aid following the New Year’s Day Earthquake.

The Washington Post reports:

All 367 passengers and 12 crew members escaped the passenger plane, while five people on the coast guard plane were still unaccounted for, NHK reported.

The pilot of the coast guard aircraft had evacuated and contacted officials.

CNN reports that 17 passengers on board JAL516 were injured.

A later press statement from Japan Airlines SVP Noriyuki Aoki clarified that “only four” passengers went to hospital for “feeling unwell,” of which two for smoke inhalation, while the pilots are now being interviewed about the final moments of the flight. Eight children were among the 367 passengers.

Regarding JA722A, CNN reports:

Five crew members died on the second aircraft, a De Havilland Canada DHC-8, according to Japan’s transport minister, Tetsuo Saito. Public broadcaster NHK said the plane’s captain was in a critical condition.

Airbus has also issued a statement that a team of Airbus investigators are joining the French BEA and Japanese JTSB.


My more detailed analysis is being maintained here.

Admetus,

This is plausible due to the fact that they were shuffling coastguard flights among the commercial flights. A simple misheard air traffic response could certainly have caused this disaster.

Brkdncr, to technology in Microsoft ending support for Windows 10 could send 240 million PCs to landfills: Report - CNA

Big Landfill once again pulling the invisible strings.

Ziggurat, to world in China says its fighters shadowed US Navy patrol plane over Taiwan Strait

No shit sherlock

badbytes, to world in China says its fighters shadowed US Navy patrol plane over Taiwan Strait

Oh no China, you make Merica soo scared. ;)

TransplantedSconie, to world in China says its fighters shadowed US Navy patrol plane over Taiwan Strait

And China’s fighters were shadowed by F-35s and didn’t even know they were there.

c0mbatbag3l, to world in China says its fighters shadowed US Navy patrol plane over Taiwan Strait
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

Try and keep it out of the bay this time when you come back, guys.

HerbalGamer, to news in US woman returns from vacation to find home demolished - CNA

“It’s been boarded up about 15 years, and we keep it boarded, covered, grass cut, and the yard is clean. The taxes are paid and everything is up on it,” she said.

Not really her home then, is it?

Chainweasel,

She paid the taxes on it, just because she’s not using it doesn’t mean it’s not hers.

HerbalGamer,

Their house, not their home.

foggy,

Who’s do you reckon it is?

Mouselemming,

It hasn’t been anybody’s home for far too long in a country full of homeless people.

foggy,

No, it has. See, when you buy a thing, you own it.

dogslayeggs,

That’s a house, not a home.

foggy,

I didnt use either word.

And no, it’s demolished.

It was a house.

I don’t know what point you’re trying to make, but it’s obviously stupid.

dogslayeggs,

Original post says it wasn’t a home, implying it was only a house, not a home. You asked what it was [if not a home]. A different person again said it wasn’t a home since nobody lived there, also implying it was just a house, not a home. Then you said it has been [her home].

I clarified that there’s a difference between a house and a home, since that is the point the people you replied to twice were trying to make but you didn’t catch. My point, whether it is stupid or not and whether you agree with it or not, wasn’t really all that difficult to comprehend. So if you don’t know what point I’m trying to make, maybe you’re an idiot? I don’t know.

The big thing we’re trying to say is that there’s a huge difference between coming back from vacation to find your home demolished, with all of your treasured and/or valuable belongings in it and also nowhere to sleep/cook/relax, versus finding an empty husk that was unused for 15 years is now gone. Yes, she owned the former house and is owed significant compensation from the demo company. Maybe there is even significant emotional trauma after her childhood home is destroyed. But that’s still different from what the headline implies.

foggy,

Home, house, both paid for possessions?

No difference.

Your argument is immaterial, and a waste of time. I’m not interested in what you have to say. Should you decide to continue this ridiculous diatribe, I’ll simply block you.

Cheers!

TheFonz,

Are you…dumb?

foggy,

No, but I’ve reported you for contributing nothing but an inflammatory remark. Cheers!

Mouselemming,

Oh it’s a thing. But it’s been nobody’s home for years.

HerbalGamer,

Well no-one’s by now, really.

foggy,

They paid for it and paid to keep it maintained.

Why is it not theirs?

HerbalGamer,

Their house, not their home.

Steve,

Shallow and pedantic

HerbalGamer,

The best kind of correct.

Nudding,

A home is where someone lives. A house is a house.

Duamerthrax,

You’re arguing semantics on the title. Why? Her property was destroyed. That’s the important part.

die444die,

While it’s still very upsetting to her I’m sure, this has not made her homeless. That’s the difference.

Duamerthrax,

She’s also not the victim of a lion attack. Neither the title nor the body of the article state she was made homeless.

die444die,

It says she returned from vacation to find home demolished, but then in the article specifies this is a “family home” that has been boarded up. That is very different than coming home to find your own home demolished. It still sucks but this is a clickbait headline and is right to be called out for it.

Duamerthrax,

Then email the editor. I didn’t have trouble reading what wasn’t being written.

die444die,

How dare we discuss an article here, on a site dedicated to discussing articles?!

How bout you stop telling people what you think they’re allowed to comment on.

Duamerthrax,

Calling out someone doesn’t matter if the person in question doesn’t hear it.

die444die,

Haha you’re really just trying to argue at this point aren’t you? I didn’t call anyone out - I referred to calling out the fact that this is a clickbait headline, which it 100% is. Did you write the shitty headline in question? Why are you so worked up about this?

Duamerthrax,

You said:

this is a clickbait headline and is right to be called out for it

Then I said:

Calling out someone doesn’t matter if the person in question doesn’t hear it.

And now:

I didn’t call anyone out

die444die,

I said that the headline should be called out. Not the author. A headline is not a person. It cannot hear. You know what, you can’t be this stupid. You’re obviously a troll. Blocked.

Mouselemming,

Considering she no longer has to pay to maintain something that has been useless to her for years, she’s better off in some ways. If she had let someone rent it and live there, this couldn’t have occurred. At some point in the past she decided it was cheaper and easier to board it up, that decision probably took into account the expense of demolishing it. Now that’s been done for her at no cost, she has options. But those facts will be part of the legal case.

Duamerthrax,

You have no idea what the real estate market is in that area and it’s not for you to decide if she’s better off without that property. Fuck off.

I’d fucking tell the company to put all the old lumber back in place.

Nudding,

The title is misleading, Imo. I don’t care if some woman’s abandoned building got accidentally demolished… Like at all.

foggy,

I just block people like this. It makes Lemmy better 😊.

FuglyDuck,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

The point Nudding is trying to make is that they didn’t live there, it was being passibly maintained, and was their childhood home, but they didn’t live there.

Still… that’s a pretty callous fuck up, and just to walk away? Yeah. No. People go to jail for less

muntedcrocodile,
@muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world avatar

Well im assuming u have at least 2 paires of shkes u mind if a shred one?

Zehzin, to world in Teardown of Huawei's new phone shows China's chip breakthrough
@Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar

Not here nor there but Kirin 9000 is a sick name

xep,

Someone at Mediatek thought so too, they have the Dimensity 9000.

purahna, to world in Teardown of Huawei's new phone shows China's chip breakthrough
@purahna@lemmygrad.ml avatar

This shouldn’t be too surprising, China has had 7nm process capability for at least two years now tomshardware.com/…/china-first-7nm-gpu-heads-to-p…

pivot_root,

It would be surprising if China was using domestic fabrication technology.

On Wednesday, [Tianshu Zhixin] confirmed our suspicion that BI was made using TSMC’s 7nm FinFET process.

Or if it was… you know, actually available to purchase.

Ooops, to worldnews in Owners of Swatch LGBTQ watches in Malaysia could face fine, up to 3 years' jail
Ooops avatar

Who is even wearing 6 different mono-colored watches at the same time just to make a point?

Alto,
Alto avatar

They're not. Don't know where you got that idea from

Sentrovasi,

I get his point though - just wearing one of them really has no LGBT affiliation: it just looks like a monochromatic watch. Maybe it's that subversion that Malaysia is afraid of.

frogfruit,

What about the rainbow flag on them

Sentrovasi,

I went on to read that it also has six colours as opposed to the seven on a "real" rainbow as well. I'm getting more educated every day.

nogooduser,

Apparently, there should have only been 6 colours in the rainbow in the first place. Newton allegedly added indigo because he believed that there should be 7 for occult reasons.

Motecuhzoma,

That strap keeper has a gasp rainbow on it

Synthead,

No see, you and all your friends wear a different color, and when you stick your hands together and proclaim your orientation, gay Captain Planet comes out

Ashtefere, to worldnews in Twelve injured as Qatar Airways Dublin flight hits turbulence, airport says

Ah yes, the shitty new boeing turbulence radar strikes again. Expect more of these in future!

Atelopus-zeteki, to worldnews in Twelve injured as Qatar Airways Dublin flight hits turbulence, airport says
@Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run avatar

I'd like to know the nature of these injuries. When flying one is always asked to wear one's seat belt when seated? Somehow flying doesn't have the charm it once held for me.

Avigrace,

Probably hurts getting an iPad and a bread roll in the face

scytale,

To be fair, you can get injured by being pulled up violently while wearing your seatbelt, or you and your seatmate knocking heads while strapped down, so there’s still a slight chance. That or it was unpredictable turbulence maybe? So a lot of people were moving around the cabin.

arxdat,

Is this something that is common but MSM needs something new to stoke fear about and they are actually reporting these issues?

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