Nonilex,
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Judges Seem Skeptical of ’s Claim of

Judges heard from a lawyer for Donald J. Trump who argued that a president could face charges only if & first, even if the case involved the of a rival. A for the called that idea frightening.


https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/01/09/us/trump-immunity-hearing?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

Nonilex,
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3 federal appeals court judges expressed deep skepticism on Tues about ’s central to an accusing him of plotting to overturn the : that he is to the charges because they arose from actions he took as .

All of the judges of the Court of Appeals for the DC Circuit — 2 Democratic appointees & 1 Republican appointee — peppered a lawyer for Trump w/tough questions about arguments he raised to support the claims.

Nonilex,
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While the 3 judges also pressed James Pearce — a lawyer representing the , — their queries to him were not quite as aggressive. The panel adjourned the hearing after about an hour & 15 mins & reserved judgment for another day.

The case is expected to eventually reach . Its pace & outcome will be central in deciding when — or if — will go to in the case. It could also determine the timing of Trump’s 3 other trials.

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@Nonilex

and then the panel when into chambers and laughed and laughed and laughed at trumps lawyer....

Nonilex,
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In one tough moment for , who was present but did not speak, Judge Karen Henderson, the sole appointee on the panel, pushed back on an argument made by his , D. John Sauer, that for >200 yrs, American courts had never sat in judgment over ofcl actions a president had taken while in office.

Judge Henderson pointed out that until Trump was , courts had never had to consider the of former for things they did in the .

Nonilex,
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Judge Henderson also seemed less than persuaded by Sauer’s argument that was acting in his role as president & upholding his duty to preserve the integrity of the when he sought to overturn his loss to President .

“I think it’s paradoxical to say that his constitutional duty to ‘take care that the laws be faithfully executed’ allows him to violate ,” Judge Henderson said.

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At one point, Judge Florence Pan presented Sauer w/a hypothetical situation, asking if a president could be charged for ordering SEAL Team 6 to a rival. Sauer said that a would be possible in that situation only if the president had first been found in an proceeding.

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When Pearce addressed the court on behalf of the ’s office, he seized on Judge Pan’s example. Pearce said it was a terrifying prospect that a could use the to a rival & then escape by simply resigning before he could be .

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Pool reporters mentioned that a legal adviser to , , was also in the courtroom.

Nonilex,
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claimed Dems were trying to keep him from the presidency through the case rather than the ballot box. He said there would be “bedlam” if he lost the case.

DISINFORMATION:

“I worked very hard on voter fraud because we have to have free elections, & we found tremendous voter fraud. We have a list of it, we have some findings if you want it. Press doesn’t like reporting it but we found tremendous voter fraud. Determinative. But we worked on that, that’s what I was doing.”

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