@matt You’re right, I disagree with this rating! :) It hit me when I scrolled up and saw what you gave Beverly Hills Cop. Rating these movies with today’s sensibilities is kind of unfair? I feel like Cop, especially, was a big deal in its time and probably broke new ground, but none of that is obvious today. It would be like criticizing Star Wars for mediocre plot and special effects. True, but…
@matt This is not to say your ratings are wrong or you should feel differently, but it’s hard to contrast these movies with 2021 Dune and feel like it’s a fair fight.
@DavidAnson So it’s an interesting question and it’s something I do try to be mindful of when watching anything. There’s definitely something to be said for watching something in its time that you just can’t get watching the same thing decades later.
That said, I don’t think movies invariably get better as time moves on, and some movies have a more timeless quality than others. Kinda like how some jokes are always funny, while others “you had to be there.” if that makes sense.
@DavidAnson On the Star Wars thing, if I ever criticize a 40+ year old movie for having poor visual effects compared to today, I’ve jumped the shark, stop me!
If the story is boring though, that’s more timeless IMO. FWIW I think Star Wars has a great story told well, which is a big reason is the most culturally significant piece of media created in the past 50 (100??) years 😁
@matt No arguments there! My comment about special effects is a little broader, though. Imagine trying to make Jurassic Park 10 years earlier or 10 years later. It would be a very different movie in either direction purely based on the quality of the special effects that were available. We are spoiled these days because anything is possible, but filmmakers decades ago had to work within tighter constraints. Dune 2021 vs Dune 1984 is a good example: same story, very different experience.
@fleg haha I've definitely learned doing these reviews that there is no more controversial review I can post than saying an 80s or 90s movie is anything less than amazing 😝
@matt Nothing compares to Peter Jackson’s King Kong gets me all teary every time - have great nostalgia for that one too watching the online video journals he released during production
@matt One of my favorites!!! I get very teary most times watching this one - amazing John Williams soundtrack too!! Amazing to hear him play with jazz and saxophones the way he does. So glad it clicked with you too!
@tchaten Oh yeah, this is at least the 3rd or 4th time I’ve watched it over the years, so I knew I’d at least like it. It had been over a decade at least though, so I wasn’t sure how well it would hold up…very happy that it did 😁
@michaelrjohnson@mako I’m actually finally making my way through that as we speak! Halfway through S1 and I wouldn’t say I love it, but it’s definitely good stuff.
@matt What’s nuts about this one is that the entire Vader ending was a last minute addition apparently? And that there was a change in directors or something midway through? Incredible save. One of my most rewatched Star Wars films.
@joshginter Oh wow, I actually didn’t look up any trivia about this one, but that’s wild. I just looked up more deets and it sounds like Tony Gilroy came in and rewrite & reshot nearly half the movie.
Didn’t Ron Howard take over Solo midway through as well and have to save that one? The behind-the-scenes drama of making Star Wars films seems like a lot.
@matt It’s my favourite. Because it’s not about good wizards fighting evil wizards but a war film about shades of grey. It probably only works because it’s a change from the wizardry though.
@matt I’m not sure if you’re after recommendations, but unless you’re doing the whole series of Trek I’d recommend jumping to VI, The Undiscovered Coutnry. It’s fantastic!
@andyn I’m always looking for recommendations! I’d say this was good enough to watch some more, but not for me to want to watch everything so the suggestion helps narrow down what’s next. Thanks!
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