daringfireball,
@daringfireball@mastodon.social avatar
Craktok,
@Craktok@mas.to avatar

@daringfireball will Bluesky ever come out of beta?

TedTodorov,

@daringfireball there is a reason the vast majority of people stayed on Twitter: when news happens, Twitter is the place to hear the lastest and debate, or watch other debate.
There was next to nothing about about the attempt coup in Russia on my Mastodon feed. There was a ton of useful info and even great jokes on Twitter: https://twitter.com/benramanauskas/status/1672374542377910273?s=42&t=wpyVTKPL8krou-IvROlKNA

rjbandicoot,

@daringfireball @gruber

Having no way to know what Bluesky was like over the last 24 hours, and no desire to have checked Twitter, it'd be super interesting for someone to compare all three platforms in light of the breaking story about the trouble in (inc the timeliness, & quality of the content and conversation). If you see any analysis along those lines I'd love to read the Daring Fireball take on it.

rgulick,

@daringfireball

If you like biased, un-researched opinion pieces, you might like this blog post. Someone in the comments said the author is a smart guy, but the evidence suggests otherwise.

freediverx,
@freediverx@mastodon.social avatar

@daringfireball
The pro-corporate propaganda continues.

jmsdnns,
@jmsdnns@mastodon.social avatar

@daringfireball Why Is Daring Fireball Here Then?

AbeEstrada,

@daringfireball spoiler alert: because it is not a corporation for profit, nobody cares about numbers

guardeddon,

@daringfireball
I find Mastodon an entirely more satisfactory experience than Twitter.
I see post from the people I’ve chosen to follow, and whatever they boost. Twitter’s just a morass. I have no idea whether I see the posts from those I actually follow.

vanitalo,

@daringfireball Keeping locked up behind an invite only system for so long just makes it seem like it’s only for a bunch of overly privileged elitists who can’t stop droning on about how great it is. 🙄

Bluesky will become Twitter 2.0 with all the same problems that Twitter 1.0 had except it might be decentralised. People’s bad behaviour is what make a social media platform trash, no matter what the technology is!

sillygwailo,
@sillygwailo@mastodon.social avatar

@daringfireball Posit: People start to think that Mastodon is declining.
Consequence: People start leaving Mastodon.
Result: Pretty soon Mastodon is declining.
Conclusion: You can can make a federated social media platform fail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coDtzN6bXAM

cktodon,

@daringfireball
Elon is pretty quiet now, Twitter is still online, despite all that was said at some point in time, so, many people maybe think there is no reason to go away from Twitter.

vimtage,

@daringfireball I switched from the app because the community is so much more peaceful on here. Twitter is just a wasteland.

vimtage,

@daringfireball I personally love this app for the better community. Twitter is just a wasteland.

takeitev,
@takeitev@mastodon.social avatar

@daringfireball nope …

mls14,
@mls14@vivaldi.net avatar

@daringfireball Does it matter if adoption stalls? If it’s something that 12 million people use and enjoy, great! Growth for the sake of growth is what turned social media into a hellscape… IMHO.

billyok,

@daringfireball Mastodon stalled because it skipped the stage of social media where it's just a fun place to be. All the popular posts are long, preachy paragraphs about Elon, Republicans and other miserable topics. They're written for...I have no idea who, since everyone who’s here supposedly already agrees the posts' premises. None of it feels fun, nor does it feel like anybody is challenging anybody with the serious stuff. It's Parler/Gab for a different class of people.

fishcharlie,

@daringfireball My biggest problem with Bluesky currently is that it truly isn’t open. You can’t even view users profiles or content without having an account.

It just feels incredibly locked down. I know this is due to the fact that it hasn’t been publicly released yet. But still a huge drawback in its current form.

bgrinter,
@bgrinter@mastodon.sdf.org avatar
kemayo,
@kemayo@hachyderm.io avatar

@daringfireball I'm not sure we can say anything about Bluesky yet, since it's not actually available to most people. It's still a product like Clubhouse -- cool amongst a certain trendy set because it's exclusive, and like Clubhouse it's entirely possible it'll immediately flop the instant the doors open up.

leoncowle,
@leoncowle@hachyderm.io avatar

@daringfireball You nailed it John. The zealotry & self-righteousness & superiority and… and… and… I see too often here on Mastodon is getting tiring very fast. But for now I still like it here — most people I follow aren’t like that. I’m just have to start blocking (from boosts) more aggressively.

dlx,
@dlx@mastodon.social avatar

@kyleve didn’t expect bsky to have meaningful growth, either. The app logged me out and I since couldn’t be bothered 😕

kyleve,
@kyleve@mastodon.online avatar

@dlx I’m not convinced either has the magic / if anyone will ever figure it out as twitter did

ccunning,

@daringfireball Sounds nice for the 150k users that are allowed to use it.

tvaughan, (edited )
@tvaughan@mastodon.social avatar

@daringfireball I’d like to see Free Software thrive. But the GPL crowd’s ideological zealotry is obviously holding it back. That’s why I’m much more optimistic about the term Open Source and the BSD license that allows businesses to make proprietary versions of other people’s work. Because success is defined by how many people use the software and how much shareholder value is created, not our collective creativity nor healthy communities

ngillespie,

@daringfireball it will be interesting to see what BlueSky is after they let people on it. Seems to be limited to tech journalists/podcasters and maybe celebrities. Starting to tire of the mentions of great experiences by those inside the walled garden when there is no means to compare it yet. And to be fair, Jack had a shot at this once. Will this be completely different?

bsk,

@daringfireball Has bluesky gotten better? I haven’t launched it in weeks.

blabberlicious,

@daringfireball
Handbags at dawn, because your mate got some moderator agro? Behave.
Why don't you spend a few hours looking into what a sh*tbag Dorsey is, and how he's keen to continue is scamification of social media.
Lazy journalism.

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